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  1. I think that there should definitely be some sort of system in place similar to how it used to be so riders have a rough idea on the severity of the events. This used to be closed to club, restricted to centre, open to centre, national etc etc. Obviously this is unnecessary and can be simplified massively nationwide and not just in each centre as I know this is a problem all around the country. My suggestions: Closed to club - straightforward sections with a variety of routes for abilities. Should be pretty easy for the top riders on each course. These are where you would go for your first trial. Centre Trials - tougher sections on all courses but still with the variety of routes Centre Championships - basically the same as centre trials but this varies from round to round and is venue dependant. Nationals - doesn't really need explaining although some nationals do have sections which are too severe at times but this is not every section. The idea is that the new riders progress upwards if they want to. If the riders don't want a challenge then they can stick to doing closed to club trials and at least they know what they are getting before they go. No point turning up to a centre trial and moaning its too hard if the severity is above them and they know it will be too hard. I think the ACU could get onboard with this too so a system is brought in across the board so it makes it easier to understand for all riders - not just the newbies. Slightly different but yesterday my club, Sheffield & Hallamshire, ran a charity trial with only one route and 16 sections per lap over a 4.5 mile course. We had 90 entries which was unbelievable to say there were 5 other events on in our centre alone but also shows we must be doing something right. The sections ranged from usual white route sections (very easy) to expert sections with 3 graded climbs. The idea is that the usual white route riders will struggle on probably half the sections but they only do 2 laps as the inbetween going can be tricky for them. We gave a choice of either 2, 3 or 4 laps and the experts and the majority of the good clubmen (middle course) riders did 4 laps. I think the overall winner doing 4 laps lost around 10 marks doing 4 laps of 16 and he had to ride well but there were no sections at all that an absolute beginner couldn't have a go at. Obviously it won't have suited everybody but it was something completely different to normal and yes a few sections churned up a bit more than expected (especially with 90 riders) but there were no real moans and everybody had a good day out on the bikes. I'm not suggesting this is perfect by any stretch of the imagination but it worked well. The biggest problem I see is that there is no challenge and no thought in the sections at a lot of trials. Nobody seems to want to lose marks anymore which I find is very odd seen as the event is called a trial. Would you expect to turn up for a round of golf if you are a newbie and go round on par or under par? No you wouldn't so why should it happen at trials! It should be a challenge but shouldn't be dangerous at all. That's my opinion anyway!
  2. On Sunday the 3rd of September, the Sheffield & Hallamshire Motorcycle Club will be once again running their annual and ever popular Brough Rough ’N charity trial at the fantastic Elmore Hill Farm in the Peak District, in aid of Bluebell Wood Children’s Hospice. This years event is also very special as it begins the running of a memorial trial for one of the club stalwarts Andy Atkinson, who sadly passed away in 2016. This unique event consists of a single route, off road course of approximately 5 miles and 15 varied sections, with riders having the choice of completing 2, 3 or 4 laps. As well as multiple graded hill climbs, rocky streams and bankings, the trial also incorporates a timed section for those of you who wish to live out your TrialGP qualification dreams! All the sections are designed to be very clubman friendly, there are definitely no large rock steps or drop offs, and nothing dangerous; the aim of the day is to have a good days riding for charity! After the trial is finished the traditional raffle will be held, prizes on offer vary from restaurant vouchers to tyres, and everything in between, so it is worth staying at the end of the trial as there is something for everyone. A butty van will also be in attendance to keep everyone fed and watered, and homemade cakes and other snacks and drinks will be available to purchase. Again, all proceeds will go to Bluebell Wood Children’s Hospice, so make sure you bring plenty of cash with you! The aim this year for the club is to raise £2000 for the charity, this will enable them to buy an emergency ‘care at home’ bag for children who are unable to leave their homes. To find out more about the excellent work this charity carry out, please visit www.bluebellwood.org Pre-entries are accepted, with the forms and further information being available to download from www.trialstalk.co.uk, however entries on the day will also be accepted. The trial will start at 11am prompt, with sections closing at 4pm. Access to the venue is via Duper Lane, Abney; the postcode for your sat nav is S32 1AH, and it will be signposted from Hathersage. Please do not attempt to access the venue from Brough using Brough Lane, this is a ‘green lane’ unsuitable for vehicles!
  3. The regulations for bikes are Euro 4, completely different to the current Euro 6 on cars and vans. That is definitely what E4 stands for on the GG. The official info on the 2018 TRS also has a quote that it is meeting the Euro 4 regulations
  4. I think you may have a point about that access bridge at Harwood Dale and now I think about it I'm sure somebody once mentioned that's why they couldn't run a round. In regards to the terrain though, it is far far better than Tong and that's without taking a digger anywhere near the place. I know they have got the heaps of big rocks now which have been imported in and would be perfect for the man made last section etc. The ideal place is definitely Hawkstone as it is central and ticks all the boxes but it's useless if it costs a fortune to hire the place. I know loads of bits of land which are plenty good enough for a world round but there is no parking or the hard standing etc that is now required.
  5. The e4 bit stands for Euro 4 so it won't be an e5 next time. I've been told it will be the end of this year/early next year when the new Racing and GP model's are out. I know GG are a bit out of sync due to the problems they had a couple of years ago but I don't think that's a bad thing. I'm not sure what gain there is for Sherco and TRS to bring their 2018 bikes out in mid 2017. Just devalues anybody's recent new bike purchases for these brands in my opinion.
  6. That's when there was an atmosphere at a trial!
  7. The best place I can think is Harwood Dale at Scarborough. Far better than Tong. One of the best rounds I remember watching was Hoghton Tower in 1994 - that was a great venue. Wonder if that is possible again? I just think its a shame that the sections have to be built for the UK round as it isn't really reflective of our terrain.
  8. The only trouble with 1 for a stop is it is still down to interpretation. I think the only way is to have a set of rules that you could easily explain to somebody who doesn't know trials. I think the stop allowed rule isn't far off but you shouldn't be able to move the bike about with your feet down as that isn't a skill. Definitely need some rules that reduces any risk of dispute for the observer as without them we don't have trials. I remember the stationary dab rule from the 80's and early 90's and that wasn't bad apart from the riders moved a tiny fraction when they dabbed (or not at all and made it look like they moved) but you had to hop round etc feet up. Would a version of this where you don't get fived for a stationary dab work but then you have to be feet up to do any re-positioning? Top level (WTC, BTC etc) would need a 90 second time limit and sensible length sections. I personally think that there is very little atmosphere at a WTC or BTC like there used to be when the minders were lining the riders up and shouting a bit of encouragement. Only a thought
  9. I think that the rider having a bit of a kick about and scrub the rocks is completely different to the minder dousing the rocks with water to increase the grip. The minder was quite clever and did it as Toni was actually riding the section too so obviously the observers were all watching him ride. I have noticed a few comments regarding that he reverses right next to the observer - well he isn't actually in the section as all sections at world rounds have a corridor so that you can have a proper go at the section without anybody being in the way. The starts cards are stapled to the 2 stakes which can be seen if you look closely. It should have been a 5 all day long anyway as he stops for ages when he has his front wheel on the last rock. I would have no hesitation to 5 him as he can ride non stop and clearly chose not to as he knew he could get away with it due to it being a hard section.
  10. The last section on Friday in the Scottish was in a stream! The section in Japan was on muddy rocks and it was his minder committing the crime
  11. I observed at Tong last year and I am observing this year too and it is not a pleasant job. My team enforced the rules fairly all weekend and it was no fun. The standard of the riding became very irrelevant due to the amount of abuse we got. I think I'm going to kit myself out like the Jap observers do with their hard hats haha. Seriously though it is farcical now and not only are the riders stopping, they are also reversing. There isn't really an easy cure as the bikes are that good now that the sections need to be harder. The observing was awful at the SSDT this year but how do we complain when they are volunteers? No stop is great if observed correctly. I'm just seeing a full circle that happened before and the riders are taking the Mickey so much that when an observer observes correctly the toys are out the pram and WW3 is on the horizon. This happened around 2005 ish and the rules were reverted to stop allowed. For a beginner stop allowed is better as they can gather themselves when they are not confident and it's far easier to observe with far little confrontation for the observers. I do agree that moving the bike round whilst the rider is stationary and feet down is crap though. Maybe we should revert to the stationary dab rule from the 90's! Feet up reversing and all!
  12. the 225..... I mean 125....sure sounded good and not remotely similar to Jack Peace's bike. Still a good ride though by all accounts
  13. I've had Gaerne's for many years and recently some Alpinestars and they seem to be just as good. Very comfy from day one and keep their shape well after being washed.
  14. The brown Stylmartin's are very good, really comfy from day one and they have a better sole than the Alpinestars
  15. I have been to a good number of world rounds here and abroad and the main difference is that abroad many of them start in a town and then the riders ride down the road to the sections. Clearly this wouldn't work over here as there is far too much red tape. In Spain and Italy, you can take your bike and pay I think 10 or 20 euros and actually ride round the course so all sections are accessible. Obviously John Kerwin is investing in this project for the long term and fair play to somebody for doing it so we have a world round in the UK. I do think that Tong location-wise is great and will definitely attract more spectators than Penrith but there is not enough there at the moment without a mammoth amount of excavating and importing of rocks etc. I have been informed reliably that John investigated running the trial at Back Cowm Quarry and the local council were the problem apparently. I personally think that Harwood Dale at Scarborough is potentially the best venue but i'm sure that this has been looked into and if it was viable it would be there.