aj201280 Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Before anyone says yes i know it is a very bad idea to do any sort of maintanance the weekend of a Trial no matter how simple if it aint broke dont fix it and all that but anyway I have broke that rule and now it is broke need some advise please I have a 2003 Beta rev 3 and decided since the weather was getting wet to seal the plug where the wires go into the flywheel casing before comp this weekend as it has started taking in water. To ensure that it made a good seal striped it compleetely ie Stator out everything ( stator was replaced with 2004 version about a year ago) sealed it up got it looking all good now i aint got no spark I have checked the resistance of the stator to be 1.34 Megaohms and i thought that to be a bit high but its a reading as opposed to openciurcut saying to me there is a compleete ciurcut there and should generate volts have done the simple stuff like disconect kill switch but dont want to throw to much money at it cos am buying new rev3 in dec and am away on a course till then near enough so any advice please oh yeah the key is still there and i have lined the stator up aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 you could try another plug did you clean the contacts inside the fly wheel also chase the wiring from stator to plug to check nothing has come loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj201280 Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Yeah been trhrough 2 plugs both brand new have compleetely disconected stator and reconected checked terminals all seems good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 I have checked the resistance of the stator to be 1.34 Megaohms and i thought that to be a bit high but its a reading as opposed to openciurcut saying to me there is a compleete ciurcut there and should generate volts If you are measuring across the two output wires from the generator, you will still get a reading even if one of the wires is pinched and down to earth. Have you measured from earth to the output wires? if you are getting a reading of around 1ohm or less, I would suggest its down to earth. p.s. I dont own a beta but this sounds like an earth short fault IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj201280 Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 So if i mesure from where i was with one probe and other on the chassy then that should tell me??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 So if i mesure from where i was with one probe and other on the chassy then that should tell me??? One side of the generator should be to earth anyway and the other will be the live output. I dont know what that would be on your bike so if you take one of the wires and put your probe on that, then the other to the chassis/engine, if the power output wire reads around 1ohm or less then its shorted to earth. This is the same as when you press the cut out button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj201280 Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Cool ill have a look at that this afternoon thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleblackflash Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 There's 4 wire fromthe stator. For the ignition you can measure the resistance across the brown and red wires. If it's not open I would connect it all back up and measure the red wire to earth (frame). Again should not be open circuit. You can measure the voltage across the red and brown wires when you kick it over. Should read about 7volts if its ok, anything below 3v is nackered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj201280 Posted October 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Ok i am listing this to help others in future but wouldnt mind hearing from someone to get there opinions K i have connected a lamp to the live out of the stator and am getting enough to light it but on the other side of the console (the little box that the wires go into and the kill switch runs through) i have nothing between there and the ht coil. With the console out of ciurcut I mesured the earth wire on one side of the box comming out at the other side for continuity which i have so i mesured for continuity between the two red wires one conects up from the Stator the other connects to HT coil and had no path through I then proceded to take that box out of ciurcut to see if i could get a spark by runing wire straight from stator to HT coil but that seems to have shorted my Ht coil out am gonna phone Lampkins tommorow but does anyone know what is in the console ie is it a junction box or does it have a specific purpose within the system ie some sort of voltage regulator bearing in mind the 12 volt regulator for Fan Etc is a completly seperate box. Thanks for all your help so far and will post further steps taken to rectify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj201280 Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Ok the final instalment called Lampkins and they said although i may be getting some sort of voltage out of the stator it may not be enough but i ordered the CDU box, stator coil and ht coil and it turned out that it was the stator after all again thanks for all the help i recieved from everyone who replied and hope this may go someway to help anyone in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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