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#1 honda_tlr

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 07:27 PM

Not seen anything like this before ! Link

Edited by honda_tlr, 13 January 2008 - 07:32 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 07:36 PM

Its not a TLR. It is a British framed special I think. Those forks look like TY mono forks to me. :rolleyes:

Edit. I think the motor is out of an XL250s . the one with a 23 inch front wheel.

Edited by bo drinker, 13 January 2008 - 08:10 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 07:46 PM

Looks like it's got a xl250 (trail bike) engine in it (twin port exhaust port)......different I suppose

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 07:57 PM

Yes I have been watching it on e-bay, I wasn't sure of the motor, more modern than my WR see below.

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 08:03 PM

View PostMarky G, on Jan 13 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

Looks like it's got a xl250 (trail bike) engine in it (twin port exhaust port)......different I suppose
Looks more like a twin to me.
I was thinking cb250 super dream engine.....
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 08:05 PM

John, how many bikes have you got !?
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 08:18 PM

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QUOTE (Marky G @ Jan 13 2008, 07:46 PM)
Looks like it's got a xl250 (trail bike) engine in it (twin port exhaust port)......different I suppose

Looks more like a twin to me.
I was thinking cb250 super dream engine.....

marky g is right: engine is certainly from a trail bike: xls, xr, xrr, ...

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 09:41 PM

View Posthonda_tlr, on Jan 13 2008, 12:05 PM, said:

John, how many bikes have you got !?

All of them, even the bikes in your possession... he owns those too, you just don't know it.

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 10:05 PM

yeh xl250 with a doctored Montesa tank and seat unit................I've seen 1 or 2 in Belgium, still a big lump................

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 10:18 PM

Engine is from eithe a Honda XL250S or from CB250RS - both essentially same motor, Twin port 4 valve. (Early 1980's)

Main disadvantages of this engine are height -its much taller than tlr weight -its even heavier than a tlr and gearing - made for road, no matter what Honda tell you the XL250s was no good off road, check out the size of back sprocket to get a low enough gear for trials.

Reliability is OK IF the oil has been changed regularly, cam runs straight in the head and ther are no oil filters.

XL250s was pretty gutless, 250RS (road bike) was more powerful (compression if my memory is correct)
Tank looks like montesa to me.

Take an XL500s engine (or XR500, or FT500), and fit it in 250RS fram and you have a brilliant bike, fast and handles well - used to be the bike to beat in single racing - I digress.

Edited by g4321, 13 January 2008 - 10:19 PM.


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Posted 13 January 2008 - 10:48 PM

View Postswooshdave, on Jan 13 2008, 09:41 PM, said:

All of them, even the bikes in your possession... he owns those too, you just don't know it.

That's a closely guarded secret, if I told you I would have to kill you immediately after!

I'm not sure about "bikes in my possession", I own quite a few bikes, but my kids own bikes too, they do not belong to me, one must protect oneself in this country from the dreaded Inheritance Tax you know!

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 11:01 PM

Hey g4321 I worked in the bike trade back in the day and I was at Merton College (bike tecs) when the FT500 was launched it was crap. Folks shoe horned the XL500 lump in to an RS and that was what Honda should have built. Happy days. :rolleyes:
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 11:03 PM

So it's the kids I need to negotiate with at the next trial then?

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 11:38 PM

View Post2/4, on Jan 13 2008, 11:03 PM, said:

So it's the kids I need to negotiate with at the next trial then?

Fancy buying something then 2/4?

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 01:37 PM

Hi Big John,
The bike pictured has a TL250 motor if I remember. Is that correct?
I found a TL 250 and would love to do something with it.





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