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[bsabantamtrials]

hi. i was just wondering who sells or modifiys modified barrel and heads for bantams.
also i have been told alot of people like the d7 engine more for trials is that true.
thanks charlie

[totalshell]

no expert but i suspect the d14 is favourite. if your looking for the inside line on engine stuff i think a guy at Yorks classic is making ally barrels etc.

[GOLDENBALLS]

hi alan whitton makes an alloy barrel and head i think they are around 300 pounds his number is 01246419805
good luck stu

[Andy M]

Is it right the d7 barrel is preferred for trials as they produce torque as opposed to the 14 is more top end ????

[Old trials fanatic]

bo drinker, on 21 December 2010 - 01:08 PM, said:

Is it right the d7 barrel is preferred for trials as they produce torque as opposed to the 14 is more top end ????

Think you'll find the alloy barrels have been ported for trials. Plus on a tiny engine like the bantam you need revs anyway.

Think a lot of confusion is caused because people look at piccys and see bikes that appear to have a D7 fitted when we all know most of the competitive stuff is really D14/4 with D7 side covers etc made to look "period" like everything in Pre65

Oh yes dont forget your fork gaitors if you are riding in Yorks LOL dont matter whats under them just remember your gaitors.

Merrrrrry Christmas

Edited by Old trials fanatic, 21 December 2010 - 02:01 PM.

[toyboy2]

Old trials fanatic, on 21 December 2010 - 02:01 PM, said:

Think you'll find the alloy barrels have been ported for trials. Plus on a tiny engine like the bantam you need revs anyway.

Think a lot of confusion is caused because people look at piccys and see bikes that appear to have a D7 fitted when we all know most of the competitive stuff is really D14/4 with D7 side covers etc made to look "period" like everything in Pre65

Oh yes dont forget your fork gaitors if you are riding in Yorks LOL dont matter whats under them just remember your gaitors.

Merrrrrry Christmas

What do you mean Fork gaitors if you are ridding in Yorkshire. Its not a problem the've got a special class for the in January?

[Andy M]

toyboy2, on 21 December 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

Its not a problem the've got a special class for the in January?

No chance, it is currently a rusty rolling frame and a engine in the back of my van....snowed in. Lucky to be ready for 2012
Currently trawling for all the info I can.

[Old trials fanatic]

toyboy2, on 21 December 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

What do you mean Fork gaitors if you are ridding in Yorkshire. Its not a problem the've got a special class for the in January?

LOL but thats my point theoretically a bike would have to ride in the specials class JUST because they didnt have fork gaitors fitted. Fit gaitors then the bike runs in the "normal" class

And people moan about the Scottish Pre65

[totalshell]

we had a good chat about whats acceptable and not at the ycmc agm and as the club has announced since the summer that where guidelines might not have been followed in the past that from jan 1st they will be adhered to. all british bikes are welcome of course just that those outside the rules will have to ride as specials. this makes a level playing field for everyone. sure one of the club rules is forks should have gaitors but as the majority of bikes did before 65 whats wrong with that? the club felt that by giving the riders 6 months or so to put thier bikes right then the rules will be the same for all and applied the same to all.

riders must also now be club members to qualify for championsip points so get your tenners in smartish .. before the first round in mid january. existing members have just recieved there newsletter in the post with full details of the AGm reports and photos from the latest championship trials plus articles on modern petrol.. and winter riding tips from the archive.

ps new website now available to preview ( http://yorksclassict....moonfruit.com/ ) and well worth alook

[alan]

totalshell, on 22 December 2010 - 05:48 PM, said:

we had a good chat about whats acceptable and not at the ycmc agm and as the club has announced since the summer that where guidelines might not have been followed in the past that from jan 1st they will be adhered to. all british bikes are welcome of course just that those outside the rules will have to ride as specials. this makes a level playing field for everyone. sure one of the club rules is forks should have gaitors but as the majority of bikes did before 65 whats wrong with that? the club felt that by giving the riders 6 months or so to put thier bikes right then the rules will be the same for all and applied the same to all.

riders must also now be club members to qualify for championsip points so get your tenners in smartish .. before the first round in mid january. existing members have just recieved there newsletter in the post with full details of the AGm reports and photos from the latest championship trials plus articles on modern petrol.. and winter riding tips from the archive.

ps new website now available to preview ( http://yorksclassict....moonfruit.com/ ) and well worth alook

i dont usually like to go off topic, but i can understand the desire to keep bikes looking period, but why pick up on gaitors when there are things like bantams turning up with tanks and mudguards that make them look more like beta's (with gaitors) ?

[Old trials fanatic]

alan, on 22 December 2010 - 07:31 PM, said:

i dont usually like to go off topic, but i can understand the desire to keep bikes looking period, but why pick up on gaitors when there are things like bantams turning up with tanks and mudguards that make them look more like beta's (with gaitors) ?

And Cubs with "period" ?????? Dellorto catbs ? Yeah right

Oh how we need a universal set of "rules" that applies to all pre65 events in the UK because it's getting like a minefield. Yorks Classic, Scottish et al. We need to be on the same page or at least the same book.

I am not anti Yorks classic just how can a poor sod ever build a bike with so many anomalies. Suppose you have to decide where you want to ride before building a bike

[shedco]

Off topic, I looked at one of the well known Yorkshire bantams.
From the photo, my guess on 'rules'/ spot the difference
1.Redesigned frame, curved or fixed lower top tube, 2.No bottom tube 3. subframe altered/ narrowed.4.Engine lifted/tilted 5.swinging arm altered both width & length. 6.Tilted shocks 7. Billet yokes 8. Ty mono forks in Norton lowers.9. Redesigned new wheels .10 Fuel tank 11. Tons more mods.....
Haha, like a majesty with a bsa sticker on it - no, atleast a majesty is 30 years old!

Edited by shedco, 23 December 2010 - 11:18 PM.

[totalshell]

all great points of discussion fellas. the nub is though that there is a clearly worded set of rules at yorks classic and those rules are as written/ voted for by the club members so there will/ may be some anomalies but each has been passed by the democratic process. over my years as a member rules have moved, bantams were only allowed 3 speeds when i started and progress has seen that change. you dont have to have a trick piece of kit to do well. the vintage two stroke class was contested this and every year by original bikes built and maintained well within tight budgets.
certainly lots of money is spent on cubs and villiers engined bikes but i dont see any of the money bags bikes on the top of podium in this years championship. decent riders win trials and you cant beat em by spending more money.. a simple rule but it holds as good today as it always has.

[shedco]

Yep, you cannot buy skill,
I usually get beat on my Ty by a chap older than me on a.....
rigid bantam!

[Alan_nc]

Hum, I like the Gator idea. I've got Yamaha DT forks on my Bantam and that would hide them pretty well.

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