Isola 2000 Wtc - Observing
Started by beejay62, Sep 14 2009 06:28 PM
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#1
Posted 14 September 2009 - 06:28 PM
Just back from an excellent weekend in Isola. Cracking scenary, sections and a fantastic drive to get there.
As a trials rider over the past years (too many to state !) I've witnessed a few rider/observer disagreements but there was one strange situation on Sunday.
On the second lap @ section 14, a certain italian riding sherco arrived and walking through the section and pointed out to the observer that a large rock had moved since the first lap and asked if he could move it back to its previous position. The observer looked at the rock and was kind enough to lift it (2 handed lift so quite a big one !) and re-position a couple of feet further back into the hole he wanted filled. Do the WTC riders have rules that allow this ? Also, there were 3 assistant observers, none of them disagreed with the main observer. This was right at the tail-end of the day and our British riders had been and gone riding it as it was !
This was a section that none of the WTC guys cleaned on Lap 1 and only 3-4 succeeded on the second lap (even Toni 5'd).
Maybe I am missing something here and would be happy for someone to enlighten me to the rules that permit this.
By the way I recall he did clean it.
As a trials rider over the past years (too many to state !) I've witnessed a few rider/observer disagreements but there was one strange situation on Sunday.
On the second lap @ section 14, a certain italian riding sherco arrived and walking through the section and pointed out to the observer that a large rock had moved since the first lap and asked if he could move it back to its previous position. The observer looked at the rock and was kind enough to lift it (2 handed lift so quite a big one !) and re-position a couple of feet further back into the hole he wanted filled. Do the WTC riders have rules that allow this ? Also, there were 3 assistant observers, none of them disagreed with the main observer. This was right at the tail-end of the day and our British riders had been and gone riding it as it was !
This was a section that none of the WTC guys cleaned on Lap 1 and only 3-4 succeeded on the second lap (even Toni 5'd).
Maybe I am missing something here and would be happy for someone to enlighten me to the rules that permit this.
By the way I recall he did clean it.
#2
Posted 14 September 2009 - 06:50 PM
Im not certain to the actual rules. But im 99% sure you can't alter a section, if the landscape becomes unlodged.
That was bang out of order and should not have been allowed.
I always ask people if they want the section tarmacin, when i catch them kicking rocks out of the way etc! Brushing a rock for grip fair enough, but moving stuff no way!
That was bang out of order and should not have been allowed.
I always ask people if they want the section tarmacin, when i catch them kicking rocks out of the way etc! Brushing a rock for grip fair enough, but moving stuff no way!
#3
Posted 14 September 2009 - 07:23 PM
same thing happened on 11 slightly different circumstances.
#4
Posted 14 September 2009 - 07:37 PM
Every time something went wrong at the weekend (and trust me, there was plenty) we just said "What country are we in?" - that says it all. They are a law unto themselves...
#5
Posted 14 September 2009 - 08:53 PM
Reading the even report it looks like the rain wasn't there for the first lap either, did he ask them to dry that up as well.
John Isherwood.
#6
Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:29 AM
We did realize it was not correct but hope that this sort of feedback gets through to organizers somehow as it would allow for this situation to be stopped.
It did spoil the end of trial a bit to see it happening. Despite the weather (it was only a wee bit wet, I've rode SSDT in real rain) I liked the venue.
I misquoted in 1st msg. It was a spaniard on a sherco with Initials AC.
This event was free to spectate, had food booths that were well priced. 5 euro got a large double hotdog + coke. How much is WTC iin Fort William ?
It did spoil the end of trial a bit to see it happening. Despite the weather (it was only a wee bit wet, I've rode SSDT in real rain) I liked the venue.
I misquoted in 1st msg. It was a spaniard on a sherco with Initials AC.
This event was free to spectate, had food booths that were well priced. 5 euro got a large double hotdog + coke. How much is WTC iin Fort William ?
#7
Posted 15 September 2009 - 06:51 AM
The same Mr AC seems to make a habit of changing sections. We spent a couple of years in planning sections for a world round and on the day before you would not believe how many rocks were moved as the section was "too difficult", funnily enough AR and TB had already passeds the sections as fit for purpose!
#8
Posted 15 September 2009 - 09:04 AM
Observers also had a special stop watch for French riders on section 15...
#10
Posted 17 September 2009 - 03:20 PM
And to top it all my hot dog was off!
I love Oil
#11
Posted 17 September 2009 - 06:31 PM
barryroads, on Sep 17 2009, 04:20 PM, said:
And to top it all my hot dog was off!
Never!
I hope you took it back for a refund Barry?
Big John
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"Just Shut-Up and Ride!"
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and finally...It's just my personal opinion!
Highland Classic 2 Day Trial (UEM) 9/10 June 2012, Alvie Estate, Aviemore, Scotland..."The Friendliest and Biggest Classic Trial in Scotland" !!
"Just Shut-Up and Ride!"
On any Sunday, I'm a flyin' Man!
and finally...It's just my personal opinion!
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