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#46 totalshell

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 07:00 AM

why spend all that time and money developing a product that will be 40% more expensive than the rest of the market the commitment to this project must be huge in terms of time and money when the returns are so limited..

one of the issues with this project is fashion.. Beta Montesa Sherco Scorpa are all current Ossa will garner a following from those of us riding/aspiring to ride in the seventies.. so aged 35-50 what age group would be attracted by the Greeves? whose hey day was 1955 v-65 and how old would those riders be today and how many riders do you see at club trials who are that age?

in hindsight the best proposal for using the Greeves name would have been to manufacture/ retail competative pre 65 equipment ( frames, brakes engine gearbox) for which there is a much bigger market and where price is a secondary consideration.

in those immortal words.. 'i'll tell you where I am .. i'm out'

Edited by totalshell, 10 October 2010 - 07:07 AM.

We few .. We happy few...

http://pre65trials.blogspot.com/

#47 Nigel Dabster

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 11:43 AM

View Posttotalshell, on 10 October 2010 - 07:00 AM, said:

why spend all that time and money developing a product that will be 40% more expensive than the rest of the market the commitment to this project must be huge in terms of time and money when the returns are so limited..

one of the issues with this project is fashion.. Beta Montesa Sherco Scorpa are all current Ossa will garner a following from those of us riding/aspiring to ride in the seventies.. so aged 35-50 what age group would be attracted by the Greeves? whose hey day was 1955 v-65 and how old would those riders be today and how many riders do you see at club trials who are that age?

in hindsight the best proposal for using the Greeves name would have been to manufacture/ retail competative pre 65 equipment ( frames, brakes engine gearbox) for which there is a much bigger market and where price is a secondary consideration.

in those immortal words.. 'i'll tell you where I am .. i'm out'
he (richard deal) did produce a greeves but from what I hear that wasn't a rip roaring sucess either, i'm out too!

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 01:54 PM

Its British'ish and deserves encouragement if it is better than the competition and is of a quality which befits its price tag,but take a look at this-



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My guess is that it will endure another couple of days at the Telford classic show,amid plenty of back slapping and hand shaking,no doubt,then quietly disappear.

#49 charlie prescott

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:30 AM

Hi Guy's
One mans Dream that has gone badley wrong, and has know where to go, such a shame. Priced on promises, and cancelled orders.

Regards Charlie.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:34 AM

View PostTRICKYMICKY, on 11 October 2010 - 01:54 PM, said:

Its British'ish and deserves encouragement if it is better than the competition and is of a quality which befits its price tag,but take a look at this-


That looks very weak!

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:31 AM

Ah yes a quality light weight swinging arm if I'm correct?

Will be ok, you won't notice it after a few events - packed full of mud!
or is it a nice cutting edge for your boots/ankle.

GasGas will be taking taking notes.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 12:26 PM

Wont matter if it's anything like the Anglians he sold cos most of them needed stripping and sorting out before you could use them. Alegedly of course :chairfall:
The Victor Meldrew of Trials Central. Dont believe everything you read about me because the truth is much much worse !! LOL

#53 larstrialinfo

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:46 AM

View PostTRICKYMICKY, on 09 October 2010 - 08:42 PM, said:

Join the queue-it starts in the van.

Hey! that white van is mine:P

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:49 AM

Test of the Greeves trialbike by me. last year.
Greeves Test

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 06:39 PM

View Postlarstrialinfo, on 07 September 2011 - 08:49 AM, said:

Test of the Greeves trialbike by me. last year.
Greeves Test

Interesting!
Certainly reads better than it looks on the god awful videos on You Tune with Phil Disney (I think) riding it. Everything looks wrong on there.

So do they actually exist, are they in production, are they available and most importantly is anyone going to be crazy enough to buy one??

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 08:27 PM

I heard they reorganise the company a bit. Very strange, they traveled around europe last year to find importers. Than they produced only a few bikes and every time they changed things. They chose for to expensive solutions and they don't have the space and the people to produce a lot of bikes. So they don't can buy a lot of parts in one time, what makes the bike even more expensive.
In euros the bike will cost more than 7000. that's idiot i think

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 08:01 PM

View Postlarstrialinfo, on 09 September 2011 - 08:27 PM, said:

...........In euros the bike will cost more than 7000. that's idiot i think
:agreed: :rotfl:
For the last time...it's not 'SUPPOSED' to have a seat.
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