[Andy]

Funny litle press release received tonight with details on an XPA 300. Changed logos, changed company name, changed details, changed pretty much everything and sent on behalf of Alta Motor Group.

They're not sponsors of TC and therefore not legible for full-on publicity so I'm not going to publicise the full release, but it's an interesting change of tactics...

[larstrialinfo]

The Xispa website is under construction and on xpamotor.es are photos of the new bike. Very strange

[Andy]

Still receiving updates. 12 emails in the past 30 mins but their website

http://www.xpamotor.com/

is just a holding page

[borus]

Andy, on Jun 30 2010, 04:44 PM, said:

Still receiving updates. 12 emails in the past 30 mins but their website

http://www.xpamotor.com/

is just a holding page

http://www.xpamotor.es/index.htm

cheers

[larstrialinfo]

why so much mails?
do they have so much news?
On their website they said David Cobos is the developer, he was also the owner of Xispa. Maybe onlya change of their companyname, with a new bike.

[thespikeyone]

borus, on Jun 30 2010, 09:51 PM, said:

http://www.xpamotor.es/index.htm

cheers

that look really good!!! hope they manage to break through a bit better with this machine.

is this going to be the future with new manufacures only making one bike? now with xpa,ossa and greeves??? leaving he bigger boys, gas gas, beta, sherco and scorpa catering for the 125's etc

[marky boy]

Andy, on Jun 30 2010, 09:20 PM, said:

They're not sponsors of TC and therefore not legible for full-on publicity so I'm not going to publicise the full release, but it's an interesting change of tactics...

I did not think that sherco were sponsors of TC, but they seem to do pretty well for all their publicity and press releases on Tc regrads new models etc??

I know what has gone on, but at what point does the info for jo public about all the bike brands (rather than just adverts for parts & acessories etc companies) become an advert rather than info?

[somerled]

Well, as someone who works for an educational charity which promotes motorcyle use and trials riding in particular I for one am still not amused at us spending over £6000.00 on Xispas which after two months light use have become totally useless. ie they started making horrendous noises from the bottom end then conked out completely. Leaving us without bikes and many young people without a bike to ride. Xispa are all talk and no trousers.

I'd be very interested to see how all of this pans out.

Anyone had a better experience with Xispa?

[Andy]

marky boy, on Jun 30 2010, 09:57 PM, said:

I did not think that sherco were sponsors of TC, but they seem to do pretty well for all their publicity and press releases on Tc regrads new models etc??

I know what has gone on, but at what point does the info for jo public about all the bike brands (rather than just adverts for parts & acessories etc companies) become an advert rather than info?

Sherco are not sponsors of TC, nor are MRS although it's something I've talked to Malc, Rhoda and Carly about several times and I'd love to have such a respected name in the sport as MRS on board, but we've just never been organised enough to sort things out. At no point have I promoted the Sherco brand on this website over any other brand. Point me to any news article or press release which I've made which backs up your theory.

[Pete_Scorpa3]

somerled, on Jun 30 2010, 10:13 PM, said:

Well, as someone who works for an educational charity which promotes motorcyle use and trials riding in particular I for one am still not amused at us spending over £6000.00 on Xispas which after two months light use have become totally useless. ie they started making horrendous noises from the bottom end then conked out completely. Leaving us without bikes and many young people without a bike to ride. Xispa are all talk and no trousers.

I'd be very interested to see how all of this pans out.

Anyone had a better experience with Xispa?

That's not good news! Either for your charity or for Xispa!

[somerled]

Pete_Scorpa3, on Jun 30 2010, 10:22 PM, said:

That's not good news! Either for your charity or for Xispa!

Too right. The Xispas were great at first and obviously made of quality parts. We had them at the Bob Macgregor Trials Academy and they performed well. I liked them a lot and the our young folk thought that the black and menacing look was cool. But they just started rattling alarmingly and stopped after a few days use, despite being advised that 'it is only a broken tooth - keep using them'. (the Xispas and not the young folk....but it is hard to tell sometimes)

So we are having to use our Scorpas and TTR's but with two bikes out, we are stuggling to keep up with demand etc.

Hopefully the Xispa debacle will turn out ok. We have our own version of the brand which is not for consumption in polite company!

[copemech]

Totally different motor! (Gasser on steroids) Quick change gearbox! Radical new stuff!

This could get interisting!

[chewy]

Even if it was/is some of the same people from Xispa the pics clearly show its an all new bike with some excellent ideas; what is the problem with letting them compete in an open market?

[Telecat]

somerled, on Jun 30 2010, 10:36 PM, said:

Too right. The Xispas were great at first and obviously made of quality parts. We had them at the Bob Macgregor Trials Academy and they performed well. I liked them a lot and the our young folk thought that the black and menacing look was cool. But they just started rattling alarmingly and stopped after a few days use, despite being advised that 'it is only a broken tooth - keep using them'. (the Xispas and not the young folk....but it is hard to tell sometimes)

So we are having to use our Scorpas and TTR's but with two bikes out, we are stuggling to keep up with demand etc.

Hopefully the Xispa debacle will turn out ok. We have our own version of the brand which is not for consumption in polite company!

I don't think it would be just Xispa's that would give you trouble. A Charity local to me went to Scorpa 125 4T's as the two strokes they used were high on maintenance and that was another make. Given the work cycle I'm not sure many Trials bikes these days would survive. The demand is for a competition bike that has to be light, powerful and can be easily thrown around. Most owners spend a weekend running them and spend the week "fettling" them back into shape. You need a bike that can stand being ridden for 7 hours a day for at least two days a week with riders of varying abilities and mechanical sympathy.

[BOSTIT]

Separate gearbox - they started off copying Sherco and they have ended up copying Villiers! Whatever next side valve............................oh I'll get my coat.