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#1 User is offline   mattlloyd50 

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:54 PM

hi i have an swm 240 and have had some ignition trouble.
it would run fine for about half an hour then would stop sparking, i have replaced the complete ignition system (stator winding, condenser, points, ht coil and plug).
this has solved the problem and it ran fine for two trials but during the most recent trial it started misfiring on a long climb.
since then it will start and idle ok, but when i ride it splutters and backfires a lot.
could this be the condenser breaking down?

i have also cleaned the carb and tried a different clean carb but no change in the symptoms. so im pretty confident its not fuel related.

please help as im very frustrated with it.
thanks


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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:54 PM

Do not laugh but is it your petrol?
We had very similar problems with a Montesa 349. It was ridden in two different trials over the same weekend, on the Saturday the bike was great and on the Sunday it was pants! The only difference was the petrol, Saturday's petrol came as usual from the local Total garage, because the local gaarage was not open Sunday's fuel was bought from a major supermarket's own pumps. The supermarket petrol had water in it straight out of the pump! Cleaned the carb and tank, refilled with our normal petrol and the problem vanished.


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Posted 31 July 2010 - 08:50 AM

View Postmattlloyd50, on Jul 30 2010, 10:54 PM, said:

hi i have an swm 240 and have had some ignition trouble.
it would run fine for about half an hour then would stop sparking, i have replaced the complete ignition system (stator winding, condenser, points, ht coil and plug).
this has solved the problem and it ran fine for two trials but during the most recent trial it started misfiring on a long climb.
since then it will start and idle ok, but when i ride it splutters and backfires a lot.
could this be the condenser breaking down?

i have also cleaned the carb and tried a different clean carb but no change in the symptoms. so im pretty confident its not fuel related.

please help as im very frustrated with it.
thanks


Remount the condenser by the coil, so much easier to eliminate such potential problems.

Is your fuel flowing fast enough ? Had the same symptoms and was down to faulty fuel tap.
Cleaning a section is like setting fire to Joanna Lumleys shoes.


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Posted 31 July 2010 - 01:06 PM

if your condenser is going bad the contact points will become concave & convex,
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 09:05 PM

the fuel system seems fine, even the filter on the fuel tap in the tank is clear.
im going to try a different condensor tomorrow hopefully.


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Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:46 PM

Gday, what colour is the spek plug? Check this first. It may save a lot of time.


Cheers,

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:24 PM

thanks for the help and replys.
i swapped the condenser and the problems gone.
if it happens again i may fit it away from the engine.


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