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[midlife]

Is there any one out there that has converted a 301 to twinshock.The 301 i have has a steel swinging arm but i have an alloy swinging arm for a 201 and a spare sub frame to cut and weld so at the end i can put it back to a mono.If any one has any photos of convertion it woud be helpfull.
Thankyou

[meggy]

I have just finished one i will take some pics in the morning if you give me an email address i will send you some

Dave

[Lee Harris]

but why do this?

[Old trials fanatic]

Do you ever get that "Deja vu" feeling ?

[Wherry]

Is this a wind-up? Do people that think this is a sound idea really exist?

[meggy]

Wherry, on 25 November 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:

Is this a wind-up? Do people that think this is a sound idea really exist?

People climbing on to thier high horses again must be pre 65 owners with 2010 bikes

[heavywrecker]

http://www.classictr.../mono2twin.html

If you must!

At least you are prepared to change it back again!

I have a 301 and it's a great bike, I have a Montesa 349 for doing twinshock trials.

[midlife]

meggy, on 25 November 2010 - 07:22 PM, said:

I have just finished one i will take some pics in the morning if you give me an email address i will send you some

Dave

photos to midlife1@hotmail.co.uk

[Lee Harris]

I asked the question why and want to provoke...


on the other hand read this...

it sounds ok really....not my words

""""""One reason for converting a cheap but sound old air-cooled mono, is directly related to preventing TS going down the pan in the same way as "P65"!

There is currently a completely wrecked 240 spares bike on Ebay, which is likely to cost around £2k to rebuild/restore properly, that means that if it sells for around £1k (which seems likely) its going to have cost the owner £3k!

Lots of people are likely to want to have a go at riding TS on open class bikes costing £1k, and it seems astonishing that many seem to think that bolting a pair of shocks on the back of an old air cooled mono, is going to result in something comparable to a modern £10k "P65" bike."""""""""""


I like the bit about not going down the pan....


over here we have rules as in the uk. my reed valve fantic got banned yet the norton guy with 1000 pound forks is allowed to ride.

I feel victimised.

An open class for Ts and pre 65 would go down well here and keep those bike moving...

Lee

Edited by Lee Harris, 26 November 2010 - 08:09 AM.

[RogerRoger]

I am not (so) bothered by cheats, but surely at some point this will make it harder to set sections at the correct level. At the moment, a big part of the appeal of the Twinshock class is the ability to attempt non-dangerous sections that are still challenging. P65 sections have got harder to keep pace with the developed machines - not sure we need this in Twinshocks. Oh, and it is cheating.

As for the cost issue, if you want cheap trials, buy a 10-year old beta, spend a few quid on it and compete in a club trial. Twinshocks (and P65) cost more!

[bilc0]

Honestly who give's a flying **** who's doing what to these bike's.
Come on fellow Twinshockers are'nt we being a bunch of old tarts here,most of us have no chance of winning a Trial anyways,why not just ride and enjoy each others company on the day no matter what the bloke next to you have done to there bike.

Twinshocks are starting to come back in a big way,with that follows bigger competition (fact.)
If you would like the Twinshock scene to fall on its nose then continue to put others down that want to try someting diffrent with the older bikes.

[Lee Harris]

RogerRoger, on 26 November 2010 - 08:59 AM, said:

I am not (so) bothered by cheats, but surely at some point this will make it harder to set sections at the correct level. At the moment, a big part of the appeal of the Twinshock class is the ability to attempt non-dangerous sections that are still challenging. P65 sections have got harder to keep pace with the developed machines - not sure we need this in Twinshocks. Oh, and it is cheating.

As for the cost issue, if you want cheap trials, buy a 10-year old beta, spend a few quid on it and compete in a club trial. Twinshocks (and P65) cost more!

cheating is a bit hard...if the bikes were discuised as a 76 Ossa then maybe...

Is putting marzocchi internals with click aduster in norton outers also cheating then? Roger, please answer that one!

Steve is correct below.....who is winning on what?

Its the fun thing.

I dont buy in that sections for pre 65 are getting ahrder to keep up with developments...thats IMHO just not the case.

I have seen that twin shocks are going up in price...is it good for the sport....no.

If the classes are well defines, we can get out and have fun on all bikes as bilco says.

Agreed, dont try and ride a Ts prestige trial on a mono convert, but for example at the exmore, I compete against my mates and most of all myself...

lee

Edited by Lee Harris, 26 November 2010 - 01:50 PM.

[meggy]

That made a lot of sence too be honest i am happy to ride mine in with the modern bikes and still have a good chance of winning
as you say who would want to pay the money for a 240 or 300 it is madness and at the end of the day there is no advantage with a converted 301 over a 300 that i can see

[RogerRoger]

"Is putting marzocchi internals with click aduster in norton outers also cheating then? Roger, please answer that one!"

Possibly, though a slighty different case - Monoshock bikes are not Twinshock bikes. Trick forks are a development of an existing item. Grey area, I agree, though!

[meggy]

Yes people in glass houses should not through stones the moderd pre65 has nothing to do with an original pre 65 machine