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[TooFastTim]

[totalshell]

which beggars the question why do they ride enduro bikes in extreme enduro when a trials bike is massively quicker..

[Ross Brown]

Awesome video. What we've always known but rarely seen demonstrated with this level of rider skill. Enduros win on acceleration and are much more comfortable and easier to ride over big jumps. You can see over the first jump that having a seat and long travel shocks wins out over short travel shocks, no seat, and suspension-by-leg. But when it comes to letting the front wheel float over rocks and logs, horsepower and height lose out to balance and a low centre of gravity.

Edited by Ross Brown, 16 February 2011 - 04:09 AM.

[TooFastTim]

totalshell, on 16 February 2011 - 03:52 AM, said:

which beggars the question why do they ride enduro bikes in extreme enduro when a trials bike is massively quicker..

Only in the tight spots. What happens if you have a transport stage of 75Kms? The guys on enduro bkes will have packed up and gone home before the trials bike even reaches the tight stuff.

[tony27]

totalshell, on 16 February 2011 - 03:52 AM, said:

which beggars the question why do they ride enduro bikes in extreme enduro when a trials bike is massively quicker..

Because they need someone to pay the bills & no trials manufacturer sells enough bikes to have the money needed

[TooFastTim]

tony27, on 16 February 2011 - 07:41 AM, said:

Because they need someone to pay the bills & no trials manufacturer sells enough bikes to have the money needed

Cynic

[Kramit]

Here in the States, Trial Bikes are not allowed in the top class in Indoor Enduro Cross. They run a separate race for Trial Bikes Only.

[Thedbf]

Ross Brown, on 16 February 2011 - 04:06 AM, said:

Awesome video.

You think ? I thought it was the worse video ever posted on here, but there ye go, hey ho

[Ross Brown]

You're right, it pathetic video quality. It's the concept I like.

[Woody]

Good fun but it proves nothing as there is actually no point to prove. A trials bike will always be quicker around those micky-mouse indoor enduro circuits.

As Tim says, on a proper WEC enduro special stage the trials bike would be nowhere, the same as the enduro bike would barely get through the start gate of a WTC section (unless it was Grimbo on the Husaberg....)

Have a look at this and imagine how far behind Knighter the trials bike would be at the end of the stage.

http://www.youtube.com/user/renderwtal

[TooFastTim]

Woody, on 17 February 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

As Tim says, on a proper WEC enduro special stage the trials bike would be nowhere, the same as the enduro bike would barely get through the start gate of a WTC section (unless it was Grimbo on the Husaberg....)

The difference narrows in extreme enduros but some of the rounds (Romaniacs and the "roof" to name two) also involve long transport or regularity stages where an enduro bike will pull miles on a trials bike. Put it this way, if there was a race between a trials bike and an enduro bike in the Scottish but each day involved only 4 or 5 sections instead of 30 to 40 who do think would make it round in the shortest time?

Edited by TooFastTim, 18 February 2011 - 07:14 AM.