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[millsbomb]

198b mint,just sold on e-bay for £ 950.00.any one see it?

[Big John]

millsbomb, on 19 February 2011 - 11:17 AM, said:

198b mint,just sold on e-bay for £ 950.00.any one see it?

No - that's very good price if it was mint and mechanically sound!

Big John

[paulmac]

I'll bet that's ended up in Spain

Paul Mac

Edited by paulmac, 21 February 2011 - 09:43 PM.

[millsbomb]

anyone interested the e-bay no of the 198 was-----------260739115717

[dabber]

looks cheap compared to this.


Ebay item just ended.

[Greeves]

It is very strange, but that engine and frame numbers; 19804086B of that 3,200 Pounds bike don´t add up to me.
(sorry to talk about this, but the pics showing both are actually still in Ebay and have been displayed for a long time there)


199B production was of 1778 bikes, and 198B just 270 units, so the frames and numbers should start in 000001 and end in the number of units produced, 001778 for 199B and 000270 for 198B, so this is very odd to me a 198B number 4086.

Maybe I am in a mistake and the numbers of 19-B´s follow a different pattern. Could be as there are actually the last bikes produced by Bultaco after the owners left the company on hands of the workers...

Edited by Greeves, 01 February 2012 - 06:31 PM.

[wayne_weedon]

Greeves, on 01 February 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

It is very strange, but that engine and frame numbers; 19804086B of that 3,200 Pounds bike don´t add up to me.
(sorry to talk about this, but the pics showing both are actually still in Ebay and have been displayed for a long time there)


199B production was of 1778 bikes, and 198B just 270 units, so the frames and numbers should start in 000001 and end in the number of units produced, 001778 for 199B and 000270 for 198B, so this is very odd to me a 198B number 4086.

Maybe I am in a mistake and the numbers of 19-B´s follow a different pattern. Could be as there are actually the last bikes produced by Bultaco after the owners left the company on hands of the workers...

Not too far off the other one that recently sold.

198B

ie # 3946

Wayne...

[Greeves]

I got the answer, I was in a big mistake !!!

It looks you have to add all the 198´s series produced:

1779 units - Model 198 from frame 198000001 to 198001779
2050 units - Model 198A from frame 198001780A to 198003830A
0270 units - Model 198B from frame 198003831B to 198004099B
------------------------------------------------------------
Total 4099 units of 250 cc in the 198 series

So some books I have consulted are wrong !!!!!!

[Woody]

£3200..... that's crazy money. They're little different from a 198a really apart from colour, mudguard loop and swingarm. The most I have seen one reach on ebay before is about £1400 so why £3200 for this one - which would need another £3-400 spent on it to get it trials ready (tyres, shocks etc.)

There will be a 198b on display at the show which has been fully rebuilt and which was converted to a Vesty copy many many years ago (it was ridden like that in the original Sebac series, early 90s) It may be for sale (it's not mine, nothing to do with me other than I may have to transport it there)

[paulmac]

Looking at those numbers prompted me to check the numbers on my 198b

At 3858 it makes it the 27th bike of 270 made.

That’s either

- something spooky in a numerological sense or…
- A strong indication that I need to get a life.

Paul Mac

Edited by paulmac, 01 February 2012 - 09:59 PM.

[Lorenzo]

Referring to the 198 series numbers provided by Greeves - anyone have the equivalent numbers for the 199's ?
Or know when 199B numbers started ?

[Greeves]

Lorenzo, it should be:

5960 units - Model 199 from frame 198000001 to 198005960
6915 units - Model 199A from frame 198005961A to 198012875A
1778 units - Model 199B from frame 198012876B to 198014653B
------------------------------------------------------------
Total 14653 units of 325 and 350 cc in the 199 series

More or less...

But then again the numbers don´t add up correctly to me comparing with some of the books I have, as one of them says 199B started 199012885B, although the same book says the numbers of units and models produced of 199 series is exactly as I have written here. Odd.

Edited by Greeves, 02 February 2012 - 10:18 AM.

[Lorenzo]

Thanks, Greeves.

Very interesting..........

Edited by Lorenzo, 03 February 2012 - 11:06 PM.

[dabber]

Woody, on 01 February 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

£3200..... that's crazy money. They're little different from a 198a really apart from colour, mudguard loop and swingarm. The most I have seen one reach on ebay before is about £1400 so why £3200 for this one - which would need another £3-400 spent on it to get it trials ready (tyres, shocks etc.)


There will be a 198b on display at the show which has been fully rebuilt and which was converted to a Vesty copy many many years ago (it was ridden like that in the original Sebac series, early 90s) It may be for sale (it's not mine, nothing to do with me other than I may have to transport it there)

Yours for £7750. Looks triple mint. I've got a pic, but can't upload yet.

[smelling123]

dabber, on 04 February 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Yours for £7750. Looks triple mint. I've got a pic, but can't upload yet.

Saw it at Telford if its the one you mean. Very nice replica of Vestys last 250. Not within my price range but very nice to look at.
Reed valve too...