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Column No. 205 - Bemrose Loses Its Blossom


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#1 Andy

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 05:04 PM

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I’ve had itchy fingers for much of the past week, eager to add my personal views to the problems that surrounded the Bemrose trial which enjoyed its 83rd running, but for only the first time as a round of the Normandale sponsored ACU Traditional Trials Championship.

But instead of rushing into print, or more accurately rushing to write this Sunday’s column on my laptop and then having to re-write it, I’ve waited a bit to see how it all unfolded.

If you haven’t been following the saga let me refresh your memory. The trial attracted a very large entry, around 190 though how many started I’m not sure. Riders were entered in all six Normandale/ACU Traditional classes (Pre 75 British Bikes, Twinshocks, Air-cooled Monoshocks and three Veteran classes on modern machines) plus non-championship Bemrose Clubmen plus non-championship Bemrose hard route riders.

The 40 sections were marked as two routes, a easy and a hard course, but then at very short notice and after the final instructions in the programme had been displayed, a “third” route was added in six sections which were poorly indicated by a piece of paper at the beginning of the six sections which stated that the hard route should be ridden by the Twinshocks, Air-cooled Monoshocks and Veterans over 40 riding the Traditional series.

However, and here’s the nub of the problem, those three classes were not identified separately from all the other groups, therefore the observers had no idea whether the riders who should have been riding the hard course on those six sections did or did not do so.

Well before the half way point in the trial it was very apparent that some riders – and I say here and now, not deliberately – were not riding the correct routes, primarily because they were not expecting to as it hadn’t been stated in the final instructions and also because the indications at the sections were considered inadequate.

Therefore, once the results had been published on Monday, scores for many riders were somewhat different than could or would have been expected. This resulted in some formal and informal protests made and eventually it was decided that the three classes involved would not be awarded points in the Normandale Championship.

But there were also further problems. Initially some 32 riders were classed as non-finishers because they had missing scores from observers’ cards. The vast majority of those 32 rode all 40 sections and according to Normandale regulations, a missing score (officially classed as a missed section) should have 10 marks added to the rider’s final total.

However, whilst it is a regulation, many see it as an unfair penalty for an observing error rather than a rider error, and eventually five marks were added to those riders who had missing scores.

In a difficult trial, an extra five may well be seen as inconvenience rather than as a significant penalty, but the Bemrose this year was an extremely easy trial with a number of clean sheets and many riders with very low scores, therefore an extra five becomes a harsh penalty and can make a significant difference to the rider’s championship points.

However, it proved to be the best of a bad job and the later results, issued at the end of the week have been considered as final. Classes A, E and F get points, classes B, C and D don’t and some riders in classes A, E and F feel hard done by due to the extra fives for “missing” sections.

I don’t know how to overcome the problem of missing scores from observing sheets. Riders can’t rush back to check the observer has a score for them, but equally, if they have ridden the section then they have every right to expect an accurate score. I well know that observing is a job undertaken by volunteers and I also know that our sport is totally amateur with nothing at stake except a few championship points and self satisfaction, but that doesn’t alter the fact that whilst the Bemrose traditionally has always been a very good trial and one that I have ridden a good few times, this year the organisers did slip up.

Does it matter? Probably not, it’s only a sport but even so there has definitely been some grizzling.

Just a week earlier my own club organised the second round of the Normandale series which attracted 169 starters. We possibly had a few too many for the land which proved to be quite wet (in contrast to the Bemrose which was as dry as I’ve ever seen it), but the real problem for us at the end of the event and commented upon by our forgiving landowners was the huge amount of litter left behind.

As a club we failed miserably as we should have had a litter collecting party on hand at the finish when everybody had gone home. But darkness was falling and the day had been long and arduous, suffice to say we didn’t do a pick up when we should have.

But should we? As a club we have every right to expect riders to respect the land we use and not leave behind a significant amount of litter. So please, let this be a reminder to all and sundry, no matter what the trial, leave the land as you found it please.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 05:20 PM

Seems a bit harsh that people ride this series from all over the country some travelling long distances to secure points only to be told that there will be no points awarded for classes B,C & D?

Would have been better to scrub the sections surely?
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 05:20 PM

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Just a week earlier my own club organised the second round of the Normandale series which attracted 169 starters. We possibly had a few too many for the land which proved to be quite wet (in contrast to the Bemrose which was as dry as I’ve ever seen it), but the real problem for us at the end of the event and commented upon by our forgiving landowners was the huge amount of litter left behind.

As a club we failed miserably as we should have had a litter collecting party on hand at the finish when everybody had gone home. But darkness was falling and the day had been long and arduous, suffice to say we didn’t do a pick up when we should have.

But should we? As a club we have every right to expect riders to respect the land we use and not leave behind a significant amount of litter. So please, let this be a reminder to all and sundry, no matter what the trial, leave the land as you found it please.

Easy answer is to do what we do and issue a black bag to every rider as they sign on, not expensive and it put's the onus on the riders. Apart from anything else the woman who does our environmental stuff at Bon Accord is a right harridan....... ;)

Can't provide answers to the Bemrose issue but there was obviously a breakdown in communications somewhere, unlucky for them

Edited by Andy, 27 March 2011 - 05:25 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 07:40 PM

"However, it proved to be the best of a bad job and the later results, issued at the end of the week have been considered as final. Classes A, E and F get points, classes B, C and D don’t and some riders in classes A, E and F feel hard done by due to the extra fives for “missing” sections."

As an interested party that probably spent over Ł100 to compete in the 4th round of this years Normandale Traditional championship I find it very poor to find out that points will not be given for this round vis a passing comment in your article.

Last official communication I saw was the clubs last open and honest statement as posted on this and other sites on Friday. Evidently Tim Fairbrother - ACU steward for the event was then looking at the situation. If what you say is true should not a formal ACU/NDYMCC statement of been made.
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 07:34 AM

Not for me to comment on the Bemrose but regards litter I was under the impression that EVERYONE is responsible for thier own mess (litter) whether they have paid for an entry ,whether they are a superstar, whatever the circumstances, As a regular observer at the scottish I find particularly if I have a section after a fuel /lunch stop whatever that not only do I have to pick up the neccesary stuff for having a trial but I then have to collect and carry (sometimes 20 miles across the moors )a bagfull of rider generated crap in order to dispose of it. How is it that people (and it's not just us lot in trials) seem to think that landowners don't notice what gets left behind after we've all gone home?. Perhaps if we adopted the mindset of being invited into the mother in law or the bosses garden where we wouldn't dream of leaving tyre inflator bottles , drink cans bottles paper plastic bags etc etc. we wouldn't have this problem. Imagine inviting or allowing 100 plus strangers to visit your own garden and finding 50 items of litter after they have all gone home; how would you feel? Perhaps another idea would be to advise all competitors now that if I see a competitor or his supporters littering my section/ control area I will quietly make a note of his riding number and award suitable punishment marks at the next opportunity. Whilst I am only too pleased to help anybody in trouble I don't regard myself as being there to wipe/kiss ass and clear up behind competitors. Organisers and officials are volunteers who want to make our sport happen which is hard enough in this day an age without extra unneccesary burdens such as litter being left.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 09:59 AM

Guys

I have not studied all the various comments on this event in much depth, although it is obvious and unfortunate that things have gone a bit amiss

However all this supposition – and that is exactly what it is – about points not being awarded for this or that class is premature.

The facts are that the Organisers will send in a set of results to the ACU .

There may well be Protests to sort out before this, there may be obvious things they wish to rectify, – I have no idea

It may be that after deliberations, new sets of results will be produced – again I do not know – and frankly I doubt if anyone else does at this point either

After this – and only after this – the decision on points can be taken – and it may be worth mentioning here that in ALL Championships the actual points allocation for any classes – regardless of which type of Championship events will always have to be ratified by the T & E.

Until that point – Championship positions are merely “ Provisional” so speculation about points/positions is not getting anyone anywhere.

Please let the Organisers look at the situation , and after this the T & E in conjunction with the Steward will take any necessary decisions

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 06:42 PM

View PostAndy, on 27 March 2011 - 05:04 PM, said:


the real problem for us at the end of the event and commented upon by our forgiving landowners was the huge amount of litter left behind. So please, let this be a reminder to all and sundry, no matter what the trial, leave the land as you found it please.

Totally agree with Mike's comment re litter.

As well as Chris having a pop at the riders, observing a spectator section at the Scottish is a well known PITA due to the litter left behind by spectators. Lagnaha on a hot day? Couldn't be in a better place, unless of course you have to go round picking up the beer cans, bottles, sandwich packets, sweetie wrappers etc left behind!

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