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#31 larstrialinfo

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 08:00 PM

i know. i ride a 280 2 stroke scorpa 2011. they still use yamaha engines for the 125cc 4 stroke and the T-ride. So why not for the sy 250FR?
I love my scorpa. The new one is so more competative. Because of the sherco engine of corse.

#32 eddie_lejeune

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:50 PM

Again logic dictates and you surely dont have to be an insider at yamaha that even with the tooling the cost to set up a production run of say 1000 units (very optomistic anyway)would make it inhibitive, and thats for a big out of date lump.


Scorpa already would have the tooling?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:11 PM

Scorpa already would have the tooling?

engine tooling

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:20 PM

engine tooling


surely this also exists, though I think Kuroyamas bike has been modified to suit a beta clutch?

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 06:44 AM

surely this also exists, though I think Kuroyamas bike has been modified to suit a beta clutch?

I'm not a production engineer but i imagine that a production run of anything less than a few thousand units is prohibitive, and scorpas wont sell anything like that. (they did go bust you know)
I am sure Crosswite said that it was the purchase price of the motors that made the scorpa expensive.
There is also the question of whether yamaha want to be associated with Sherco at all?

Whilst its great that this is your dream bike the simple fact that this is not a shared desire by enough people, or the bike isn't that great, caused lack of sales and an uneconomic production run.

As the beta clutch isnt great I imagine its not one of those.

Edited by Nigel Dabster, 29 December 2011 - 06:45 AM.


#36 steve fracy

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:21 PM

I can imagine the clutch..... best we have ever used. Never one problem and works brilliant!
The Older I get, the better I was!

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 05:14 PM

Im with Steve, just dont use that crappy Maxima gear oil in them.

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 05:58 PM

I can imagine the clutch..... best we have ever used. Never one problem and works brilliant!

as soon as the evo came out dougie and fajardo both had works clutches.
The reason for this was that the thing didnt work well for the top lads.
I had an evo as well and never had a problem, kuriyama will be the former i think.

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:48 PM

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 02:10 PM

first thing I could think of after seeing that pic, was, what a mess!
The Older I get, the better I was!


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Posted 30 December 2011 - 07:01 PM

I didn't know they were using a SOQI rear shock on those
That's a Japanese Ohlins, I don't know if cooking the res on the engine Is a great idea LOL
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#42 eddie_lejeune

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:43 PM

Listen to that engine



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Posted 23 February 2012 - 03:44 AM

Great sound --- yes! But did you see all of the dents and scrapes on that bike? Either Kenichi is hard on bikes or Yamaha doesn't make many spares :thumbup:

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Listen to that engine




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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:29 AM

He's Japanese, And got No fear, That's what I like about Kenichi! And probably why his bike is scraped & dented everywhere.

Bike does sound pure awesome though, Proper 4 Banger.

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