Pre 65 Scottish 2012
#1
Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:55 AM
#2
Posted 14 December 2011 - 10:01 AM
Will try to restrain myself this year
#3
Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:59 PM
Did you sent it OTF?
Edited by Greeves, 15 December 2011 - 01:59 PM.
"Our past is the key to our future" L. Leakey
#4
Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:42 PM
Greeves, on 15 December 2011 - 01:59 PM, said:
Did you sent it OTF?
#6
Posted 16 December 2011 - 05:49 PM
doggielambskin, on 16 December 2011 - 05:27 PM, said:
Hope not, looking forward to another rant !!
Edited by B40RT, 16 December 2011 - 07:38 PM.
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#8
Posted 17 December 2011 - 07:09 PM
Woody, on 16 December 2011 - 07:10 PM, said:
I feel the need to look that up again - so funny.
#9
Posted 17 December 2011 - 07:33 PM
Woody, on 16 December 2011 - 07:10 PM, said:
I feel the need to look that up again - so funny.
#10
Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:17 PM
#11
Posted 19 December 2011 - 09:57 PM
This seems to have more truth as the years go bye.
Or is it only History repeating itself.(trials that is).
Regards Charlie.
Happy Christmas Guy's.
Edit, to spell my name correctly? Well it is Christmas.
Edited by charlie prescott, 19 December 2011 - 09:59 PM.
#12
Posted 19 December 2011 - 11:49 PM
Whilst poking around I came across the eligibility regs and saw this
Frame
Pre’65 design only. The rear subframe must resemble the original and be identifiable as such. Machines fitted with a bolt-on rear subframe must retain this feature. Triumph Tiger Cub machines must be fitted with a frame which has tube construction and “swan neck” steering head.
I don't ever remember this being part of the criteria before so I looked up last years frame rule and the text in red is a definite addition for this year. Last year's rule is below
Frame
Pre’65 design only. The rear subframe must resemble the original and be identifiable as such. Triumph Tiger Cub machines must be fitted with a frame which has tube construction and “swan neck” steering head.
Now, I can only draw one conclusion from this and that is that replica frames, such as Faber for a Unit BSA, won't comply as the subframe is welded whereas the original was bolt on? Or am I reading it incorrectly?
Last year the Faber frame MK3 was acceptable as it had continous frame tubes under the engine like the original rather than the MK1 and MK2 which weren't due to a seperate bashplate.
I'm currently building a MK3 Faber which I'll sort during the course of next year and if I could get the right components on it, would have entered the trial the following year. Does this now mean that the Faber is no longer acceptable again?
I'm confused with this need to keep changing things
(Sensible answers please, if anyone knows - I'm not trying to open 'hostilities'...)
#13
Posted 20 December 2011 - 10:00 AM
Woody, on 19 December 2011 - 11:49 PM, said:
Whilst poking around I came across the eligibility regs and saw this
Frame
Pre’65 design only. The rear subframe must resemble the original and be identifiable as such. Machines fitted with a bolt-on rear subframe must retain this feature. Triumph Tiger Cub machines must be fitted with a frame which has tube construction and “swan neck” steering head.
I don't ever remember this being part of the criteria before so I looked up last years frame rule and the text in red is a definite addition for this year. Last year's rule is below
Frame
Pre’65 design only. The rear subframe must resemble the original and be identifiable as such. Triumph Tiger Cub machines must be fitted with a frame which has tube construction and “swan neck” steering head.
Now, I can only draw one conclusion from this and that is that replica frames, such as Faber for a Unit BSA, won't comply as the subframe is welded whereas the original was bolt on? Or am I reading it incorrectly?
Last year the Faber frame MK3 was acceptable as it had continous frame tubes under the engine like the original rather than the MK1 and MK2 which weren't due to a seperate bashplate.
I'm currently building a MK3 Faber which I'll sort during the course of next year and if I could get the right components on it, would have entered the trial the following year. Does this now mean that the Faber is no longer acceptable again?
I'm confused with this need to keep changing things
(Sensible answers please, if anyone knows - I'm not trying to open 'hostilities'...)
However it is also a prime opportunity to loose a bit more weight as some of the locals and i am thinking of modding too. Why not just gut the back off the Faber and substitute a bolt on alloy subframe? A couple of lads round here have and are now looking at alloy swing arms too. Still within the rules eh? Not our fault if they dont know their ar5e from their elbow and leave the door wide open is it?
Looks like a gift horse to me.
#14
Posted 20 December 2011 - 11:49 AM
Hi Woody,
As you know, I am Mr "Otter".
And you probably know that I am in the throws of building a Faber Mk 3 Triumph Cub engined bike for my nephew in the Isle of Man, to ride. Well this bike is being built with two things in mind one to get, and keep the young man interested in the Classic trials bike scene. And two, to enable him with experiance to ride in there own two day Classic trial in September.
And to gain an entry into the Scottish trial, maybe as early as the year after next.
Well when I bought the frame from Howard, at Faber, he "asured me" that this frame would be OK for the Scottish trial!!
So do you now think that Howard has fallen out with a commitee member, and so they have moved the goal posts????
We will see,
I am still sure the a Spanish rider uses a Faber "Otter" based frame. and gets a ride.
PS. Could always stick on some dummy bolt fixings anyway.
Regards Charlie.
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