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#1 spawtydawg

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:58 PM

Hi, does anyone know if anyone makes an after market electronic ignition kit for a
Minarelli engined 200 Fantic?

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 07:07 PM

the 200 minerelli ignition is electronic]

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 07:27 PM

View Posttechnowaldo, on 01 January 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:

the 200 minerelli ignition is electronic]

Hi, yes I know that but rather than buy all the individual parts to rectify a problem it might
be easier and cheaper to buy a complete stator kit. Also I've heard that some of the parts are
no longer available.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 07:35 PM

iF YOU ARE HAVING SPARK PROBLEMS IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO CHANGE BOTH COILS, source and HT. tHERE IS A LATER TYPE OF ht AVAILABLE AND THE SOURCE COILS ARE AVAILABLE FROM bOB wRIGHT. Changed mine made a world of difference. We forget these bikes are over 30 yrs old now, :thumbup:
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 07:54 PM

Hi, done all that and still no joy :wall:

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:16 PM

Cant you get the points off a TY175 to work on it ? :P
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:51 PM

View Postjon v8, on 01 January 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

Cant you get the points off a TY175 to work on it ? :P
Happy new year !

Hi Jon hows things? Can't try that as my Yams got electronic ignition. Have got a set of points off
a 349cota that I could try and bodge on if you think it might work? :rotfl:

All the best, catch up with you soon.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:08 PM

View Postspawtydawg, on 01 January 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Hi, done all that and still no joy :wall:

so it wasnt the ignition or it wasnt done properly.

Both the source and trigger coils can be rewound. Fit a ducati HT coil from steve goode and off you go. It it still IS a problem, mabe thhe flywheel magnets are old? I have never seen this but it could be. What exactly is the problem?

a<ftermarket ignitions are available for the forward kicks but not the minarelli.

They are like fitting weber carby to a GTI though...
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:28 PM

If you have fitted both coils properly and all wiring is good the kill switch may be playing up, have you tried new plug and cap??
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:50 PM

Don't forget to verify that the grounds(Earth) are clean and corrosion-free.Engine to frame,ground at coil and ignition to engine case.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:59 PM

View Postspawtydawg, on 01 January 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Hi Jon hows things? Can't try that as my Yams got electronic ignition. Have got a set of points off
a 349cota that I could try and bodge on if you think it might work? :rotfl:

All the best, catch up with you soon.
Nailing Mont points on could be like using a wax candle..... good luck with the Fanny - cant be too much wrong....
With any luck I should be at the Golden Valley trial on the 29th Jan.Maybe not Serow powered,quite - but see you and Bo there ?

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 11:45 PM

Ok here's the skinny as our American buddies would say. Bike cut out at a trial went totaly dead.
Eventually fired back up again ( no misfireing or iratic running ) rode another section bike died
again. Once home tested for a spark nothing. Fitted new coil ( Ducati type ), new source coil,
new spark plug, new ht lead, new plug cap. Still no spark so we're running out of options. The only
thing I think it might be is the pick up but I've been told they are not available any more. As far
as I'm aware I've wired everything up correctly ( checked it numerous times ). Also I've tried it
with the kill button disconected, still zilch!

Any ideas anyone.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 01:42 AM

View Postspawtydawg, on 01 January 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Ok here's the skinny as our American buddies would say. Bike cut out at a trial went totaly dead.
Eventually fired back up again ( no misfireing or iratic running ) rode another section bike died
again. Once home tested for a spark nothing. Fitted new coil ( Ducati type ), new source coil,
new spark plug, new ht lead, new plug cap. Still no spark so we're running out of options. The only
thing I think it might be is the pick up but I've been told they are not available any more. As far
as I'm aware I've wired everything up correctly ( checked it numerous times ). Also I've tried it
with the kill button disconected, still zilch!

Any ideas anyone.
Check the green wire from the trigger coil. For some reason the isolation falls off. Also chech resistance. Should be 40-60 ohms. They can be rewound. 85 quid at bill pye

Edited by Lee Harris, 02 January 2012 - 01:43 AM.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:14 AM

Thanks for all your input lads I'm sure we'll get it sorted in the end.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 12:10 PM

View PostLee Harris, on 02 January 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

Check the green wire from the trigger coil. For some reason the isolation falls off. Also chech resistance. Should be 40-60 ohms. They can be rewound. 85 quid at bill pye

Hi Lee, the green wire goes to the box at the bottom right hand corner of the stator plate, is
this the trigger coil? I thought this was the "pick up". Took the stator off and tested the trigger
coil (green wire) for ohms resistance it read 39.6. Do you think this low reading could be the
cause?

Thanks in advance.





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