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#1 lewisallen

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 06:33 PM

soo i was out riding 2day and after washing my bike off iv noticed that theres hole in my silencer.. noooo not the one thats surposed to be there. looks like my rear tyre has rubbed through it:( how can i fix this without buyin a new can?? and also where can i buy new silencers if i need one.. cant find them anywhere in the uk.
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bikes a 2002 gaser txt 280 if thats any help.. thanks

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:04 PM

Very common fault after an off the silencer gets pushed inwards and does this, I always check mine after a crash.
New ones will be available from GG UK but pricey about £200+. second hand ones are rare!.

The fix is to have a plate welded over the hole but find someone who can weld and make a neat job of it, You will see many others who have had theirs done and the welding is like Sparrow Muck :rotfl:

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 08:01 PM

Hi there
Ive had the same problem but i pop riveted a plate on so it can be replaced asa an when.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 08:58 PM

View PostRichT, on 01 February 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

Very common fault after an off the silencer gets pushed inwards and does this, I always check mine after a crash.
New ones will be available from GG UK but pricey about £200+. second hand ones are rare!.

The fix is to have a plate welded over the hole but find someone who can weld and make a neat job of it, You will see many others who have had theirs done and the welding is like Sparrow Muck :rotfl:

bikes going back to the garage i got it from tomorrow, he said hes going to weld a plate on. :D surely theres a cheaper exhaust of different one i can put on, like an aftermarket one, fmf do exhausts that look similar to trials ones.but i dont no if u can use them on trials bikes

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:12 PM

View Postlewisallen, on 01 February 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

bikes going back to the garage i got it from tomorrow, he said hes going to weld a plate on. :D surely theres a cheaper exhaust of different one i can put on, like an aftermarket one, fmf do exhausts that look similar to trials ones.but i dont no if u can use them on trials bikes


A different one will still get bent in and be no better - I used one of the inner liners this place did - not sure if they still do them My link

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:24 PM

View Post2/4, on 01 February 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

A different one will still get bent in and be no better - I used one of the inner liners this place did - not sure if they still do them My link

i no a different exhaust wont make any difference but just in case i need a new, can u get aftermarket ones?? and is this the cover your on about??http://www.trick-bits.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=40_50&product_id=79 how do u fix it to the pipe?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:44 AM

I did the same as rustybay (Wayne), for my '02 GG 280 TXT Pro, which had a spot worn through just like the one in your photo.

Just took off the pipe, and riveted on some matching aluminum plate to cover the hole. I also used some silcone sealer (RTV high temp stuff) to seal around the edges of the patch. While I had it off, I repacked the silencer as well.

Figure, if/when the tire wears through the patch, I'll just drill out the rivets, cut a new aluminum piece and rivet that on.

Cheap/easy fix. Looks pretty good to. If you want, I can take a photo of it and post it in a couple of days.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:11 PM

View PostPurpleBeast, on 02 February 2012 - 03:44 AM, said:

I did the same as rustybay (Wayne), for my '02 GG 280 TXT Pro, which had a spot worn through just like the one in your photo.

Just took off the pipe, and riveted on some matching aluminum plate to cover the hole. I also used some silcone sealer (RTV high temp stuff) to seal around the edges of the patch. While I had it off, I repacked the silencer as well.

Figure, if/when the tire wears through the patch, I'll just drill out the rivets, cut a new aluminum piece and rivet that on.

Cheap/easy fix. Looks pretty good to. If you want, I can take a photo of it and post it in a couple of days.
I've seen this done many times..looks a bit Frankenstein but works well.
I seem to remember putting a spacer between the exhaust hanger and the frame to move the silencer 'out-over'.

P.S. with a topic entitled 'Two holes?' I would have expected more smutty answers than this....I thought it might be a 'poll'

Edited by HAM2, 02 February 2012 - 12:46 PM.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:53 PM

View PostHAM2, on 02 February 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

I've seen this done many times..looks a bit Frankenstein but works well.
I seem to remember putting a spacer between the exhaust hanger and the frame to move the silencer 'out-over'.

P.S. with a topic entitled 'Two holes?' I would have expected more smutty answers than this....I thought it might be a 'poll'

well hopefully ill pick the bike back up tomorrow, dropped it off this afternoon guys welding a plate on for me and cleaning my carb,hopefully will look alright.

and as for the topic title i was surprised too that no one had put some immature comments haha

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 03:11 PM

View PostHAM2, on 02 February 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

I've seen this done many times..looks a bit Frankenstein but works well.
I seem to remember putting a spacer between the exhaust hanger and the frame to move the silencer 'out-over'.

P.S. with a topic entitled 'Two holes?' I would have expected more smutty answers than this....I thought it might be a 'poll'

It is a common fix and solves the problem. I've fixed a few friends silencers by cutting and welding in a plate and surface sanding the welds, and if done well it's had to tell it's a repair. The top shock bolt secures the silencer hanger/tab and the tab can be spaced out using about 3-6mm of stacked washers. The shock bolt is secured by a Nyloc nut so if the bolt threads do not engage the Nylon after the washers are installed, you'll want to use some Loctite in the nut.

If the plate is put on the outside of the muffler, you'll need to space out the silencer even more as there will be less clearance due to the thickness of the plate.

I agree, considering the topic, participant restraint has been surprizing! And, a little scarey.........

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:17 PM

View Postlewisallen, on 01 February 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

i no a different exhaust wont make any difference but just in case i need a new, can u get aftermarket ones?? and is this the cover your on about??http://www.trick-bits.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=40_50&product_id=79 how do u fix it to the pipe?


Similar but it went on the inside of the silencer and was held by the mounting bolt.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:15 PM

got the bike back 2day and the guy that did it must be a god with a welder and grinder.. just looks like a scratch on the can now and hes managed to pull the pipe out more for me too, only just got home so ill post a photo tomorrow if i remeber to see what you lot think of the repair. :banana2:

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:23 PM

well the guys did a pretty good job of repairing my can..

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:36 PM

That’s a bit better than the average repair :thumbup:





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