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My 1St Sidecar Project


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My bultaco has been the base of this project and its not quite finished but here is a few pics.

Thanks to paul and bultaco uk for the help

I first stripped the bike to a rolling chassis.

Lined the chair up and prepped for welding

Took lots of measurements and got the thing ready to be welded. More pictures to follow

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I must admit the work took a while especially as I have a rare breed of dog. Its ment to be a springerdor but it definitely has magpie in him. The little black puppy is 15 weeks old and is a hoarder of tools. As soon as a spanner went near the floor I would always find it some time later in his bed. He even takes nuts and bolts.

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Hi bultoboy

Well done, I'm glad things are coming along,

Before you get to far in, try to drop the suspension on the chair down an inch or two. a shorter but harder shock from a scooter/moped would do! If I'm right that one is off an MZ Ts 250 road bike and is very soft.

Also I am now using 65 lb per inch springs on the Betor pro rear shocks of my Bultaco that I got from ty trials.co.uk. I did have 50 lb springs but we had to have the preload wound up a fair bit and 25mm fork preload spacers that I got from Billet parts.co.uk (£4.50)

The pup looks cute mate! Did you get the Yamaha that the chair was attached to or did the vendor split it?

Hope this help's.

Paul

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Hi Paul,

I have put some njb experts onto the bultaco, there is a guy at inmotion who used to ride outfits and after a bit of a natter he took some weights and got his man at njb to build me some one offs up. I thi k he but on 75lb springs.

I have got everything welded up now so the shock on the chair will have to stay. The vendor did split the bike up and sold it on separate. I phoned him and negotiate a very good price for the chair. (Less then 170 quid).

I think I need to find a tyre for the wheel. Any ideas? Its off a kawasaki I think about 16 inch will look later.

Hopefully I will have the engine in soon and try a trial in the next few weeks. I am making the most of my ajs stormer running for the 1st time in years and the scramble season is nearly over.

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That is a VERY VERY good price you got that for mate!

The red one I'm fitting to my Beta was £150. It's no were near as good condition as your one and will need a lot of work.

I was happy to pay that price too!

As for a tyre for the sidecar wheel any ribbed type of between 2.5" and 3" wide will be fine. It doesn't need to be a knobbly type.

If you haven't built what is called a floating deck between the sidecar and rear of the bike,Like thispost-2720-0-69355200-1378312419_thumb.jpg

a foot peg fitted to the swing arm will help with getting the passengers weight onto the rear wheel. I have been told that a floating deck is better for really rocky ground were the outfit is taking big hit's and a foot peg is better on softer going were you may be hunting for grip.

Can't wait for your next pictures, Keep them coming!

Paul

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I must admit I bought the chair pre built and modified to suit the bultaco. Its at my dads at the moment but I will take lots of pictures and post them up soon.

The man to ask about side cars is paul who has posted above. He has given me plenty of help via email on this build.

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How did you construct and bush the swing arm on the chair?? I would love to see some more pics if you have them.

The Bruce Rushton chair I have has ball race's like wheel bearings and on the chair I built I used "silent" (polyurethane) bushes. Land Rover Panhard Rod bushes to be exact.

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This is the swing arm on the chair I built. I will take a photo of the Rushton chair's swing arm. but it is a piece of tube for the bearing's a piece of box section as the arm and a second tube for the wheel's axle.

Hope this helps

Paul

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The sidecar bug has bitten deep, I see! Once you have one you just NEED more. :thumbup: Well done Bultoboy. Have you found anyone crazy enough to passenger for you?

P,S, how is the trials outfit coming along?

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Thanks for the reply and the detailed pics. I have just finished a big project I was working on so now I have a bit more room in the shed to make a mess and start on the trials outfit. I am meeting up with a guy on Sunday who has just finished building a P3 road racing sidecar build so I can throw a few ideas around.

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My sister was the driving force behind the sidecarcross purchase and she is going to be the passanger.

I am back at my dads this weekend so I will get out into the shed and try to get some pictures of the bultaco chair. I will get some close ups of the welds to the frame and how we went about making it all work.

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