Fim Minimum Bike Weight Increase 2014? What?

[eddie_lejeune]

Yet another topic full of drivel. This stops right now. I have far too much going on at the mo to read every single post and it's going to be easier to hit the ban button on the constant offenders than read every damned post. Keep it ON TOPIC.

 

Don't ban Dad and Dabster?

Edited May 21, 2015 by eddie_lejeune

[gasgas249uk]

^{I agree Eddie  -  Despite their wonderings  ...these 2 daft old duffers have kept us amused for a few months.....and they are both capable of looking after themselves.}

 

^{Despite their misgivings , there would be no fun on here , if it wasnt for these two.}

 

^{It has never bothered me if theyve wondered off topic....i mean people dont stumble on here for serious intelligent discussion do they ?. Theyve never had any lol.}

 

^{Just look at the huge number of page views these 2 crazy coots have been generating lol .}

 

^{Next , we need an organised boxing match on Guisborough green with "Andy" as ref and "Guys" filming it . I'll interview them after lol .}

[breagh]

I take it you mean ban Eddie?

 

I suggest they should have there own section(pardon the pun)

 

This would keep things on topic.

 

Popular too I would wager.

 

Call it something like why my Rudge is better than a Vertigo. 

 

 

[steve_earle]

I take it you mean ban Eddie?

 

I suggest they should have there own section(pardon the pun)

 

This would keep things on topic.

 

Popular too I would wager.

 

Call it something like why my Rudge is better than a Vertigo. 

How about Handbags at 20 paces!!!! The light handbag vs the old heavy one. Weight increase would be a plus in that sport!!!

 

Dad and Nige love each other really.

[steveo]

Now then B40rt, no inappropriate content please

 

Nigel, I am sorry if my cat sat on the mat post pushed you a bit far. Sometimes I have had a hard day and making a post like I did felt pretty innocuous. Yesterday I arrived home (about 19:30) to find a pretty irate and upset person at the top of my drive talking to my wife, who also looked far from happy. At first I thought the driver hand knocked her off

 

This is the first post that has got my interest and you don't finish the story......pity I'm over talkin bikes.

[dadof2]

Less of the daft old duffer if you please 249, This daft old duffer is very much young at heart although the bodywork is a bit on the heavy side and not quite what it used to be.

Steveo - the story continues after the bit you quoted, the bloke at the top of the drive was in fact one of the defendants, he had spent about 2 months tracking me down in the belief I had the allegedly forged letter, He wanted a copy with which to blackmail the Plaintiff.

I won't pollute the post with any more off thread stuff at this stage, however as there is some interest I may eventually post a brief summary of the outcome.

 

Back to the minimum weight limit, does anyone know why Thierry Michaud set it?

 

I spoke to a person who has had some input into branches of 4 wheel motor sport regulation about minimum weights and he had a number of arguments for and against, the majority in favour of some level of minimum weight restriction. The question was not should there be a minimum weight, just at what level it should be set and how it was applied to vehicle & driver. One of the arguments in favour was "parts commonality" i.e. avoiding the need of specially developed lighter parts for different classes, an argument against was that occasionally this led to some classes being felt to be "under engined" and sluggish, resulting for calls to allow more engine tuning. One of the arguments in favour of adequate minimum weights, not at all applicable to trials was to prevent drivers or riders competing in events in a dehydrated state, possibly having used diuretics. 

In some categories ballast is banned or has to be in specific position, the most extreme being in F1 where the exact front / rear weight distribution is specified.

 

Edit - I would not like to see ND or anyone else banned. His or anyone else misquoting or possibly deliberately misinterpreting me does irritate a bit as I feel I have to waste time correcting it, but the odd outburst??? I know several who have found some of the posts on this thread very amusing, its funny what some normally very reserved find amusing and so I don't pollute this post further see anything goes section.

Edited May 22, 2015 by dadof2

[kramit]

Don't ban Dad and Dabster?

 

Could Dabster be the new Lane?

[steve fracy]

I never said Beta and Sherco as light as can get. 

Frailty of GG - just read the GG forums for evidence

I did not say an MX engine is used in road racing. Some of the 2T 125 GP engines were very very close to MX engines but when the FIM changed the 125s to 4T Moto 3 they deliberately drafted the regulations to prevent the use of MX engines (rules condemned by quite a few) however the 4T technology developed in 250 4T MX engines was very easily applied to the Moto 3 engines.

Enforcing weight limits - use a set of scales, my motorcycle MOT tester has done this for years, no problems

When the 2T trials engines were very similar to their MX, Enduro and trail counterparts in the 1970s many manufacturers took advantage of this to produce bikes for all 3 disciplines, including Ossa, Monntesa, Bultaco, Yamaha, Kawasaki and Suzuki. This is no longer the case as trials engines have become too specialised and the volume of sales does not justify development costs. If the trials bike rules were drafted appropriately so that a variation of an enduro or MX engine could be competitive more manufacturers might be tempted to enter trials.

Clown!