laird387 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi, Creating a post in which I can attach some images of Montesa machines in action in the late 1960s and 70s, seemed only fair. Sadly the first image that I found in the offroadarchive is hardly a good advert for the bikes! But it is historically correct, so here goes. I prefer to allow the rider to remain anonymous......... Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot taco Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Ouch! Thanks again for all of the great images! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickwren Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I know who it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks2 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) It's Nigel Birkett - he won't mind being named --- It's a well known photograph Edited January 12, 2014 by sparks2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbler Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Good job someone recognised it - i was worried it was me and that had been photoshopped into black & white. Nice to see that Birks has spent some time upside down too !!! Keep the pics coming please ...... As always - The Wobbler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pro sport Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 This is probably one of the earliest Cota Works Development bikes in the UK. Ridden by D R Smith UMV10F was used in the SSDT and World Championship rounds. Here he is seen in a Eastern Centre, Chelmsford and District MCC Trial at Broomfield Quarry 26/10/1968 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Hi, Once again offroadarchive can produce an image for you - sadly this one hasn't been through my cataloguing stage yet, but it's obviously Don on UMV10F and the section looks very like one of the Elan Valley ones used in the British Experts - but that could be wrong. I do know it was photographed by Alan Vines - so there's a start. And there are some spectators for the people watchers. Enjoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks2 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Caban Dam ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Hi,Another offroadarchive image, this time of Jim Morris with his 348 Montesa on 'Camp' in the 1973 Scottish.Enjoy Edited February 27, 2014 by laird387 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillary Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 That's not a 348, more likely a Model V (five) b. I bought one in 1971 (I think) and found it very poor and sold it within six months and bought a brand new Miller Bultaco. I'll dig out a few pics of the Montesa (with me riding it I regret you'll have to put up with). Must check my dates as not at all sure I'm right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillary Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Have just found a suitable picture, it is of yours truly on my Montesa Mk V taken at a Devonport trial on October 31, 1971. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hi hillary, Nay Rappers you may well be reet! As I am sure you very well know my experience of Spanish motorcycles is limited to having pointed cameras at a load of them and talked endlessly about them to various well known protagonists, my only personal experience was when Pete Fletcher persuaded the factory to let me leave the works Ossa motor in the outfit that I bought from Alec Wright when he decided to change his allegiance to Kawasaki. Mary and I were constantly amazed at the way that 230cc pulled like a tractor - and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. But 348cc is what it said on the programme for the event above - so that's what I called it! Cheers Deryk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks2 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Don Smith (colour pics) is on the Mk1 Don Smith (B/W) could be on the Mk1 or Mk2 (can't quite see) Jim Morris is on a Mk5 Rappers is on the Mk 4B Edited January 15, 2014 by sparks2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Hi Sparks, my gambit on the bikes is: Morris - too early for a MK5? I'd stake a bet on a MK4 or 4b due to age - can't make out the frame colour as MK4 was black and 4b was silver? Rappers - too early for a MK4b? Tank shape, age and silver frame suggests older - a MK3? Edit: Rappers bike also has right hand gear change I've seen some history charts show the 4b running from as early as '71 through to '74 but that would mean it came with different tank shape and first right, then left hand gear change? I thought the 4 came in around late '72 with the left hand gear change and the 4b followed in late '73/74?. Edited January 16, 2014 by woody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks2 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Woody I think most / all Cota 247 history charts (including Don Morley and all internet) now seen are basically wrong in parts. I don't think even most / all modern Spanish commentators now know the exact Montesa model sequence. I have peiced some information together because I have a collection of MCNs and MCs from the late sixties / early seventies and have been able to follow the model evolution through the contemporary photographs and dealer adverts. Also I was a Montesa operator at the time and now own one of the early 247s (Mk2) It would be nice if someone could come up with a definitive sequence / list but I don't think I have seen it yet - far from it. All the above -- subject to my opinion of course. Regards Sparks Edited January 16, 2014 by sparks2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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