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Posted 01 August 2005 - 05:35 PM

125 Youth Cup world champion Daniel Oliveras took second place in his first Jr World Round attempt.

Can anyone now say this 125 class isn't worthy of developing young riders at the highest level?

Way to go Dani!
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Posted 01 August 2005 - 05:48 PM

And he was still on a 125...


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Posted 01 August 2005 - 07:13 PM

I am absolutely convinced that his success has very little to do with the 125cc WTC as its only been going this year in earnest. More to do with training, factory help, and in no little part the RFME.


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Posted 01 August 2005 - 07:33 PM

[QUOTE]And he was still on a 125...

If you put your ''SCOOBY DOO'' engine in a Robin Reliant does that make it perform like it :wall: :o :(

I think his bike is similar to the Works 4RT they are 250's ;) :D arn't they

Good to see you at the weekend Andy, Brian and the rest of the TC members I know
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Posted 01 August 2005 - 07:38 PM

Nigel Dabster, on Aug 1 2005, 08:13 PM, said:

I am absolutely convinced that his success has very little to do with the 125cc WTC as its only been going this year in earnest. More to do with training, factory help, and in no little part the RFME.

what is RFME?

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Posted 01 August 2005 - 07:53 PM

The Spanish equivilant of the ACU,
but LOADED !!!!!
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Posted 01 August 2005 - 08:39 PM

I read and understood the comments from John Collins the other day regarding an ACU Youth Squad. But when you see the RFME (Royal Federation Motorcycles Espania ??) French and Italian set ups it makes you think what else could be done ?

We have lots of talent in our current A & B stars, perhaps more so currently than over the past five years where only Sam, Shaun and now James Dabill have broken through. There's at least half a dozen riders who should be hitting the Youth Cup next year on a regular basis - but the biggest issue has got to be funding it.

There's a real lack of external financial support in trials, in fact in motorcycling in general in the UK. I don't mean free bikes and bits, these are great but they don't get you across the Atlantic or pay your fuel and food while you are on the road in Europe, or for the time off work.

I know for a fact that a major sponsor in in BSB, paid less than 2% of their F1 sponsorship to get title sponsorship and massive TV coverage. They thought it was an absolute bargain and tried to see how little they could put in to get the coverage !!

What financial support is about comes from within the sport, from the true enthusiasts who see talent and want to see it succeed at the highest level. Trials isn't going to get lottery funding, mainstream TV, Olympic recognition in the foreseeable, so without doing something radical or totally different I doubt the situation will change.

I still come back to the 'Racing for Britain' concept that launched a number of F3 careers in the late 70s, when the foreign drivers with all the sponsor dollars kept dominating the F3 Championship and making their way up to F1 as a result ( anyone remember a guy called Senna ) it was effectively a charity that accepted donations from individuals and corporates in order to fund British drivers in what effectively was the stepping stone to an F1 seat. Johnny Herbert, Martin Brundle and Johnathon Palmer were all RfB supported

Can the same principle not be tried to improve the funding of our youths / juniors ? 'Trials for Britain'

If there was a pot to throw a pound or two in yesterday to support our youth effort how much would it have raised ?

Would folk be prepared to set up a standing order of a few pounds per month and put it in the pot ?

Would people support fund raising events, buy merchandise, that generate hard cash to launch the young riders onto the world stage ?

If RfB was used as a model then for example:

Throughout the year, Trials for Britain, would hold a number of
promotions and fund raising events around the United Kingdom. Involving the Youths themselves, clubs, local businesses, etc.

Trials for Britain would have a full line of souvenirs and clothing that
will be marketed through advertising and promotions, as well as
wholesaled to clubs, series, and riders for resale. TfB will be soliciting
businesses to advertise in a newsletter/web site, "Trials for Britain".

TfB would be present at Motorcycle shows, British Rounds, Euro Rounds, and WTC shaking the tin can and getting the change out of peoples pockets.

The backbone of this concept is personal donations into the fund on a regular basis, this doesn't bring more money into the sport, it gives the opportunity to those who would like to help, yet doesn't penalise those who don't.

My thinking is that if I gave one of the young riders £50 in support it might be a bit insulting, but if 1000 people put £50 into a pot - then that £50K would really help !!
I'm a bit of a bullsh*tter myself, but I do love to listen to an expert !


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Posted 01 August 2005 - 11:04 PM

I'm pretty sure that the licence fee in Spain starts at 133 euros, if we were all paying that then perhaps we could knock the ACU for funding. Subira is on to something there good idea.


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