heffergm Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Anyone with a recent (2012+) GG care to comment on their experiences with reliability (or lack thereof)? I'm coming off a Beta that I put a million hours on and, aside from things I broke, it never went wrong. I'm inclined to just get another Beta since I'd rather ride than wrench, but something new/different sounds fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 You've bought a Gasser, it kind of goes with the territory as I found out over the years, as have many people I know and one of the reasons I ride a 4rt today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I tried a 4rt and never really did get to feel like it was "my bike". Ive had 7 gassers and even when Ive had a problem usually minor its been sorted quickly under warranty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 The 4rt's are odd things, marmite being a good comparison. Yes warranty is helpful although one of the last things on your mind 30 miles from the van in the middle of a national with a dead motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdabalot Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I liked my Betas but tried GG for 2013 + 2014. I saved a couple of hundred quid on mudguards compared to the glass ones fitted to Betas. Other than that both makes have been reliable in normal and road based trials 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I am of course biased being a proud owner of the 2001 Pro when it came out that broke down three times in two weeks from new with electrical problems and a clutch, and was swapped for another Beta very shortly afterwards and I've never bought a Gasser since. I loved my JT's and TXT's, the 98 TXT I had (280) was probably the best trials bike I've ever owned apart for the Monts, and a mate of mine usually brings his 250 over once a year for me to service for him which I enjoy as it gives me the opportunity to have an hour or so ride on it after some fettling. I loved my Rev3's apart from the dribbling problems until sorted, pretty much bullet proof and I cant say I had any major problems with any of mine, even a stator swap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 There are about 8 or 9 in my immediate area who come practising as a group. All have owned gassers at some time, and 2 currently do the bikes being a late 2013 and a 2014. The 13 is owned by a good clubman rider and has never given any problems. The 14 is so new its too early to comment (bought as one of the recent discounts) With the exception of the above 2 gassers all the other pro engined bikes have had a least one gearbox failure, some very expensive and just out of warranty and several of the group swear they will never buy a gasser again. Several of the gearbox rebuilds have been cheap partswise (about £60) and just a long evenings work. But if you break down in a trial and have to pay for labour it is very displeasing. The shercos have had minor faults - brake problems and one stator under warranty. Mechanically the betas have been 100% reliable but one bike needed 1 stator and another needed 3. 2 of the riders are thinking maybe 4rt next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I am of course biased being a proud owner of the 2001 Pro when it came out that broke down three times in two weeks from new with electrical problems and a clutch, and was swapped for another Beta very shortly afterwards and I've never bought a Gasser since. I loved my JT's and TXT's, the 98 TXT I had (280) was probably the best trials bike I've ever owned apart for the Monts, and a mate of mine usually brings his 250 over once a year for me to service for him which I enjoy as it gives me the opportunity to have an hour or so ride on it after some fettling. I loved my Rev3's apart from the dribbling problems until sorted, pretty much bullet proof and I cant say I had any major problems with any of mine, even a stator swap? I'm not sure that an opinion based on a 2001 bike is that relevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 There are about 8 or 9 in my immediate area who come practising as a group. All have owned gassers at some time, and 2 currently do the bikes being a late 2013 and a 2014. The 13 is owned by a good clubman rider and has never given any problems. The 14 is so new its too early to comment (bought as one of the recent discounts) With the exception of the above 2 gassers all the other pro engined bikes have had a least one gearbox failure, some very expensive and just out of warranty and several of the group swear they will never buy a gasser again. Several of the gearbox rebuilds have been cheap partswise (about £60) and just a long evenings work. But if you break down in a trial and have to pay for labour it is very displeasing. The shercos have had minor faults - brake problems and one stator under warranty. Mechanically the betas have been 100% reliable but one bike needed 1 stator and another needed 3. 2 of the riders are thinking maybe 4rt next. I think the question above relates to the later bikes, so follow dads advice buy a GASSER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perce Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) There wasn't a Pro in 2001 they were still producing TXT at that time. The Pro didn't go into production until 2002. I've ridden more Trials on a Pro than probably any other bike & I've broken one gear selector spring, exactly the same number of gear selectors that I've broken on a Montesa 4rt, one. Edited November 9, 2014 by perce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjbiker Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 My last 3 bikes have been Gassers and apart from a failed reg/rectifier on the 06 they've never really let me down. My 05 Rev 3 cost me with a failed stator and my 04 Sherco big end bearing gave me a £400+ parts bill. I personally think it's luck of the draw when it comes to reliability of any machine used in anger? Most modern bikes all seem to be very good compared to those of yesteryear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I have had 3 shercos. 2007, 2011 and 2012. All of them broke at least one gear change return spring. Betas I have had were ok except those small bonded bushes used for the radiator and exhaust which broke every few weeks. In 6 gas gas pros I have had one gearbox that didn't change 5th to 4th very well from new. It was replaced foc under warranty. Montesas for all there advantageous weight are not without fault. Three people I know have broken the frame where the footrest bolts on. Early models broke the kickstart stop from the crankcase. Id buy what you like riding as all bikes have their issues 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Sorry Perce, my mistake then must have been 2002, lovely looking bike, but three big breakdowns within a fortnight was enough to end my gasser days forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Andrew, it was gasser every time for me up until the Pro, so very relevant to me, seems things went downhill from there, lots of problems from what I have seen from other lads compared to pre 2001 bikes. I would love to have another Gasser, always gave done, but being bitten so badly tends to leave a very bad taste in the mouth. Edited November 9, 2014 by the addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_earle Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I love Beta build quality, Apart from stators and corroding engine cases you can't go too far wrong with one. I have heard of Gassers giving gearbox trouble but have never had one let go yet, The parts are dearer than Sherco but cheaper than Beta. As for the 4rt its built well and reliable, but hey so is a Volvo, Just wait till they bring out a Repsol caravan,Nuff said!!! If you like your Beta stick with them, A new Beta will make you happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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