old trials fanatic Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Changes for 2016 at Peak Classic To try to increase the numbers of bigger bikes taking part in the Club Championship and also to try to cater for machines that seem to have been forgotten and the owners of which feel that rightly or wrongly they are at a disadvantage when riding against some of the more highly modified British Bikes around nowadays. We therefore decided to introduce the following changes for the 2016 season. We will along with bonus points for British bikes over 351 cc be introducing a class for bikes from the late 60’s and early 70’s that have been languishing in sheds and the only time they have seen the light of day recently is at shows. So dig out those old bikes that were so commonplace in those far off days and come along for a fun ride out with the Peak Classic Trials Club based in and around Matlock in the beautiful Derbyshire Peak District. The new class, which will be called Forgotten Era, has been sponsored by PB Trialsport who have donated the trophies for the Championship. British Bikes From January 1st 2016 all riders of machines in this class over 351cc will receive 2 bonus Championship points per event in addition to their normal Championship points score. This applies to all routes. From January 1st 2016 all riders of rigid machines in this class will receive 3 bonus Championship points per event in addition to their normal Championship points score. This applies to all routes. NEW CLASS Forgotten era. A class for twinshock machines from the late 60’s and early 70’s that have been passed over and were considered uncompetitive for use in the current Twinshock class. Eligible machines to use the following engines. Jawa, Minarelli, Puch, Sachs, Suzuki and Zundap Manufacturers Alta, Cotton, Dalesman, Dot, Gaunt, Greeves, McLaren, Saracen, Sprite and Wassell Also eligible will be Pre 70 model year Bultaco 4 and 5 speed, Pre 70 model year Montesa and OSSA, Pennine only. Bikes to be generally as produced. Handlebars, levers, controls and footrest position may be altered. Current trials tyres, no tubeless allowed unless used with a tube, and shocks can be used. Plastic mudguards also allowed. Alloy rims allowed. Hubs and front forks to be era specific although internal mods are allowed i.e. springs, damping and brake materials. No discs drum brakes only. To be held mainly over the Clubman route but if riders so desire then bonus points of 3 for Classic Intermediate, 5 for Intermediate, 7 for Classic Expert and 9 for Expert route in addition to their Championship points score on the route. All as current Over 60’s Championship. If you are unsure about machine eligibility then please ask the Clerk of the Course / Trials secretary prior to the start of the event. Machines that contravene the eligibility criteria will be moved to the Twinshock class of the relevant route and will therefore score Twinshock Championship points. Edited November 7, 2015 by old trials fanatic 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleanorbust Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Well done, would be good to see one or two of the late 60s/early 70s "clockwork mice" used in anger again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Well done,there must be loads of riders who don't because they fear tight or scary sections on bikes that will struggle.Getting older bikes, and riders out enjoying themselves is what it is all about. I just wish the Miller series would take note... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi Guy's. Hi OTF. You See we do think along the same lines, Its just took a while Hey. See what bikes we have in the shed, Just building up a bulk standard C15T for my two year old Grand son "Eddie" so that he has a bike the same as is five year old brother "George" who has the last John Draper bike. Perhaps we could bring these along so that the boys can see them ridden. Just need to persuade there uncle that his back is not that bad. Nice One ,we need more thinking like this. Regards Charlie. Ps is it the "Miners Arms" that is near? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsrfun Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Is the Peak Classic ACU or AMCA affiliated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Hi otf, Many moons ago, in the 1950's, I was doing my National Service initial stint in Bridgnorth, Shropshire. On Sunday we had what was effectively a 'day off' so with a couple of my newly found mates we decided to go and have a look at the Victory Trial nearby. We arrived good and early at the Start and found them looking for volunteers to observe, good idea we thought - that was for us! We were given our observers cards, checked that we had pencils and told how to find the sections which, they said, would already be flagged and marked out. Travelling to the sections we found, to our dismay a pile of markers and section cards in a pile by the gate into a field, with no indication of what the section was supposed to be. We knew the riders would have route cards which would indicate that there would be a section 'there' and if they didn't find one they would mill around and backtrack everywhere and possibly cause local chaos....... We took a decision, we put the Begins cards either side of the gateway into the field and the Ends cards either side of the gateway on the other side of the field, where the route continued. Shortly after the first riders arrived: "Where do we go?", they queried. "Through the Begins and out through the Ends," we replied. "But where in between?" they asked, puzzled. "It's up to you to choose your route between the Begins and Ends" we told them.......... Would you believe that the trial progressed, with well over a hundred riders, as was usual, and when we cleared up afterwards then took the markers, etc., back to the Start, along with the observers cards, those cards included nearly ten per cent of the entry that had dabbed on their way across a flat field - and one solitary works rider who had scored a magnificent three! That taught me that there is more to the psychology of setting good sections than merely finding some brutal step, or whatever, that will be a 'stopper'............and that, I suspect is the basic problem with many of the classic/pre-65/etc., trials these days. Too many inexperienced course plotters, possibly who have never ridden a classic bike, setting sections better suited to a world championship class of riders........ I agree entirely with the sentiments of reverting to classes that reflect machines closer to those being ridden before 1965 - including, very definitely the clockwork mice, as my dear old friend and colleague Ralph Venables used to describe them - but equally why not try to set the sections as they would have been, back in the day - and that means just a single route, and if the fiddle bikes are bored - let them find other trials more suited............... Might I suggest a name? How about a 'Back to Basics' series? But, whatever, remember the name of the game is not to spend - but to enjoy............ Edited November 8, 2015 by laird387 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes1275 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Exactly Deryk, sections that would bring back some older or less modified bikes and might embarrass the riders that feel the need to ride fiddle bikes. You can't beat a nice reasonably straight section that follows the natural lie of the land, a gully or river bed. You need less flags as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Exactly Deryk, sections that would bring back some older or less modified bikes and might embarrass the riders that feel the need to ride fiddle bikes. You can't beat a nice reasonably straight section that follows the natural lie of the land, a gully or river bed. You need less flags as well! Hi japes, For me the importance is that it rules out the technical ability of the bike and brings to the fore the skill of the rider at 'reading' the hazard. A 'good' rider on an old nail should always beat a poor rider on a brand new wonder bike............. Edited November 8, 2015 by laird387 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi Guy's, And this is one of the venue's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Charlie and Trials are fun the pub which also has touring caravan pitches along with rooms as well is the Miners Standard at Winster within 8 miles of all our venues . We are AMCA affiliated now so no no competition licence required . Just turn up sign on and enjoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi Guy's, And this is one of the venue's. Berrycliffe if I'm not mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi Guy's. This guy was there and said he had done a bit of trials riding in the past. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japes1275 Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I didn't know Brian Johnson from Ac/Dc rode trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I didn't know Brian Johnson from Ac/Dc rode trials. Ere ! Don't be having a go at Mick - he really is the top man,has probably forgotten more about trials than most of us will ever know. I recently managed to snap this pic of him testing next years works AJS at a secret location. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Hi Guy's. Hi Jon. He's changed camp from Ariel then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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