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0007, on 16 June 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

Truth be told, the Canadians I've met are exceptional trials riders AND exceptional people.

Funtrials i like people who like trials and you do appear to be rather passionate about your sport and your preferred rules.
However not everybody shares your view and you would do well to develop a little more respect for the opinions of others who share your interest if not your particular view on no stop.

In the uk in terms of people who ride its maybe 50/50 in terms of preference i would suggest. I'm happy to ride stop permitted but prefer no stop trials. No stop at the wtc is an experiment which should be allowed to run its course without starting boycotts, its not necessary.

We are a minority sport so we need to stick together. Now go and ride your bike however you please, riding bikes is far better than arguing.

No Stop - Moving, as long as the bike is moving, sideways, hopping the front/rear wheel then it would appear the FIM are perfectly happy that that is No Stop. I think the definition may have got diluted in the translation.

I like No Stop trials and clearly it will develop a new skill/style, but a system that is so open to interpretation by the FIM, organisers, observers and the general public is ridiculous. The rules should and must be clear and enforced with no grey areas, otherwise one rider, (either due to his status or popularity etc) will benefit from another, meaning the scoring and the championship is farcical.

I know it cannot be perfect, (as humans are involved and as per the previous stop allowed rules, which were quite ridiculous too, backing a stopped bike up as an example, which was ignored most the time) but to give our sport credibility, there cannot be "the benefit of doubt" element in a world championship. This isn't a club trial were talking about, it's a professional sport that people earn a living from.

My armchair opinion and solution is, 1 mark for every fault, you stop, 1, go backwards (a few inches), 1, foot, 1, hop the back/front wheel whilst stopped, 1, etc, etc, etc, up to a max of 5 marks per section, but the section must be laid out to be ridden No Stop with a time limit. So if you truly ride no stop, you win. I love trials, I ride, observe and watch, but I cannot help but feel we are all kidding ourselves if we think either stop allowed or no stop are better than one another, there both observed incorrectly due to fear/embarrassment/intimidation, whatever it is, its not right to have a championship that has rules that are not used to score riders, with the correct deserving winner, who has ridden the trial to the letter of the rule. As an observer, I would be very happy to mark under these rules (having had previous hassles from observing no stop and stop allowed trials). I'm sure there'll be plenty to pick fault with what I have suggested and quite rightly, as it only my opinion, but clearly stop allowed and no stop are far from perfect.

The whole point of having a winner, is surely that they have won fairly within the rules, not by gaining a lower score because of who they are, what team they ride for, or due to giving them "the benefit of doubt". I want to see the the best man win in a way that I, or anyone else can observe as a spectator, without that irritation of thinking, he stopped and got a clean. (I've just watched a vid of Bou at Montegi where he stopped several times and even rolled backwards on a water fall section and got a clean for it). I don't blame the observers, I've done it and sometimes I swear I'll never do it again after getting aggro, it's not easy when spectators are judging your assessment of a riders performance. Lets face it, their all volunteers, trying to do their best, no volunteers, no trial.

I must say I like watching the no stop riding so far, it's nice to see a new style that flows without all the long stops, it just needs tweaking and maybe not called No Stop. Clearly the FIM cannot change anything this year, but maybe next year it will be tweaked and renamed, so lets all just enjoy what we see from the best riders in the world.

Hey Mark

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