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  1. Ive had 3 4ts and never had one bit of trouble. Never needed to adjust valve clearance or clean carb. Service/oil change is easy and i always found them easy to start, hot or cold. If you like a fast throttle stick with the standard or replace with an amal 80/200. Really softens throttle response. Cam on carb has 2 holes just need to put the cable nipple in the one that puts the cam at its biggest diameter(rear one) The low tractable power/torque is great, just pulls and pulls

    Factory model has better brakes and suspension. 

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  2. Definitely agree re getting 200 or 250. 125 more than capable bike but does need more from rider to get it up over and through. Try to get a ride on a few different models to see which suits. Once its moving you wont really feel the weight difference but different suspension etc makes different bikes feel different. 

    I tried a 250 sherco when first started and found it way to flighty, for me, beta much softer power delivery. You can always make sure you have a slow throttle on. The lightest feeling bike I've had which in my incapable hands just felt so easy to ride with icredible suspension steering and brakes is a vertigo 250 dl12. This model has the softer power map and flywheel weight. However be ready for lots of people saying they aren't reliable.

    My brother in law started at 63, bought a 200 beta then few months later tried my vertigo and went straight out and bought one instead of the beta. He finds it much easier to learn on and has no issues with it being too powerful.

     

  3. Falcon and Rockshocks make rear shocks for the tlr(they are longer than many other twinshocks) progressive front springs are available along with new stanchions if the chrome is pitted. Oil capacity is 295 ml per leg.

    There is a company in Spain HFS suspension who make a range of options, from progressive springs with pre load adjustment to air cartridge systems. Ive just fitted one to mine. Quick and easy to fit, the difference is night and day. Price is very reasonable, ordering etc was very easy.the only point id be aware of is the HFS fork caps only fit original tlr stanchions.. The replacement ones you can buy come with fork caps but have a different thread pitch.

  4. 05B4F490-DAB0-40FA-914A-49E5F5A66B4A.thumb.jpeg.1f84a31f277590d82e9b2edb50c365c2.jpegHaving owned both i will say they are completely different and its simply down to what you like.

    I had a very nice well rebuilt 240 fantic. If it has just been rebuilt you shouldn't need to worry about things like piston availability, believe there are pattern ones anyway. Other parts including reproduction plastics etc are available. About as competitive a twinshock as you can get, rode great steared well, brakes ok ish if relined with softer compound. 240 engine likes to be revved and has plenty of power. Quite a tall feeling bike, even with footpegs altered. I'm 6'2 and always felt high up. Despite not being able to fault it I just didn't like it. Never actually enjoyed it. I

    TLR, love it, but i prefer 4 strokes. Footpegs done, parallel yokes trials cdi from tyoffroad, high lift cam and kevlar clutch plates all help. This is where the decision is a personal one. I love the look of the Honda, the sound and the low down 4 stroke plonk. It still has enough power for most things unless you want to fire it up a cliff and need instant power when you drop the clutch(i dont!)  It just makes me smile. No issues with parts but reliability is excellent anyway. Front forks need, at least, progressive springs as the front end is quite "dead" I've just bought an air cartridge system from HFS suspension in Spain but yet to test it.  

     

    The bikes are so different you really need to try and get a ride on each to see what you prefer.

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  5. Ty 80 was and still is a brilliant bike. So many youngsters started on them.  You wont see that many kids starting on them now. I dont know what you want to spend. Petrol wise you could look for a beta rev 50 at cheaper end or small wheel beta 80, junior. That way you get the whole clutch and gears thing from day 1 and good brakes!  Kids learn v quick i wouldn't be concerned and personally think its better than the rev n go.

    Other option is the v popular oset route. Don't be put off by thinking its an electric toy, it isnt its an excellent route into it that so many choose. There is then a learning curve swapping onto petrol but just takes time

  6. I have high lift cam and the cdi from tyoffroad. Bottom end smoothness is great, revs cleanly. Wont claim a massive improvement but definitely worth doing. Parallel yokes too improved steering

     

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  7. I think the original question meant is the shop worth a look around? As in are they a small business or is it like toys r us for trials riders.

    I bought a Vertigo from them this year. I'm up in Northumberland and they dropped it off at vertigo HQ for me to collect. They were excellent to deal with and speak to. Bike was spot on

  8. Its a very common beta problem. Either try putting in gear and rocking back and forward with clutch in before start it to free sticky plates. Or be ready for it to move off when put it in gear but ride for a bit with clutch in until it releases. If its stood a while hopefully it will  ease as its used more

  9. One of the ways to centre the brakes is to leave everything finger tight then pull brake lever. Hold it on then tighten up spindle etc. 

    I always have break shoes relined by villiers services using a much softer compound. Makes a big difference, order online its not expensive.

  10. Get bikes asap. Instruction is great but there is no substitute for bike time. You could pick the easier local trials, enter and just get practice riding round the course all day then pick any of the sections you feel confident enough to try and build up that way. You get a full day on the bikes together and learn as you go. Trials riders are a friendly bunch and you will get plenty of help and advice.

    Which area are you in, local members will be able to help re the easier events and whether local clubs run any practice days. Best thing is to join facebook trials  group for your area

  11. 125 is same as the rest of the range in terms of spec, just smaller engine. Passing on the 125 to your son could be an option but not for several years yet and he would probably jump up to big wheel 80 first. For my 2 p worth i agree a 125 is very capable and most youngstrrs can do things with them i never could, but i dont like the power delivery. We have a 125 in the family and i couldnt ride it in a trial as well as a 250. I like the bottom end torque on the 250 not the buzzy 125.

    My brother in law just bought a fantastic example of a 2019 beta 200 for 3k from fb marketplace so there are good bikes out there. With a 250, particularly beta, you will find them very smooth especially with a slow throttle if needed

 
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