jbswm Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 hi, hoping that someone can help me out.i ride a twin shock swm gs bike with the modern guys.bike gos like hell,but the brakes suck.they wont lock up on stone roads! they have ebc shoes and i sand the hubs and shoes then clean them with brake cleaner.any ideas before i kill myself on this thing...thanks...johnnyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranhawk Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 hi, hoping that someone can help me out.i ride a twin shock swm gs bike with the modern guys.bike gos like hell,but the brakes suck.they wont lock up on stone roads! they have ebc shoes and i sand the hubs and shoes then clean them with brake cleaner.any ideas before i kill myself on this thing...thanks...johnnyb hi there have you bled your brakes properly mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutter Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 hi there have you bled your brakes properly mate What is there to bleed? I think you will find he is talking about old drum brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbswm Posted September 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 hi there have you bled your brakes properly mate What is there to bleed? I think you will find he is talking about old drum brakes the only thing on the bike that can bleed is the rider,it`s a 82 swm with 140mm drum brakes...disc brakes are next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranhawk Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 hi there have you bled your brakes properly mate What is there to bleed? I think you will find he is talking about old drum brakes sorry about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabdab Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Aha-another person who rides a twin shocker with drum brakes in amongst all the modern bikes In Australia, in C grade & Clubman, the sections are set by guys who have never ridden a drum braked bike and I have given up comlaining about the steep drop-offs or even sections with turns that require modern techniques. And I have done more than my share of section setting in the last 36 years Thats why I was really enthused by Swooshdaves response to my post asking whether or not anyone knew of Sammy Millers new shoes. I chose not to belittle myself responding at the time BUT this second query on the same issue has caused me to reply. All I can say is the sections in the USA for old bikes must be in a parking lot in the local casino-the highest hill probablely being the median strip between parking bays Old drum braked bikes need the best they can get in brake shoes if the owners want to ride with modern bikes in modern sections. Oh, by the way, thats the ONLY area twinshocks are not competive against average riders on modern bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmac Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Aha-another person who rides a twin shocker with drum brakes in amongst all the modern bikesIn Australia, in C grade & Clubman, the sections are set by guys who have never ridden a drum braked bike and I have given up comlaining about the steep drop-offs or even sections with turns that require modern techniques. And I have done more than my share of section setting in the last 36 years Thats why I was really enthused by Swooshdaves response to my post asking whether or not anyone knew of Sammy Millers new shoes. I chose not to belittle myself responding at the time BUT this second query on the same issue has caused me to reply. All I can say is the sections in the USA for old bikes must be in a parking lot in the local casino-the highest hill probablely being the median strip between parking bays Old drum braked bikes need the best they can get in brake shoes if the owners want to ride with modern bikes in modern sections. Oh, by the way, thats the ONLY area twinshocks are not competive against average riders on modern bikes Hi Old Mate - any info on new shoes would be much appreciated - I was fettling my 198b for the Masters Games at the weekend - spent 3 hours on the brakes and managed an improvement that lasted all of 10 minutes... let's hope the sections are all uphill on the 10th Paul Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthegas Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 All I can say is the sections in the USA for old bikes must be in a parking lot in the local casino-the highest hill probablely being the median strip between parking bays Are you kidding? The environMENTALists would never allow us to desecrate sacred tribal land with an off-road vehicle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian r Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Sorry about being off topic but... Where are you from "onthegas"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin j Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 not sure if this helps, but I tried EBC on TY350 and they were so hard to be about worthless. Maybe the compound good for street bikes... sanded, sprayed, buffed drum, etc to no avail. Also, certain sprays, ether for instance, affected their glue and they would go from touch of brake to full lockup with just a bit of fingertip pressure. I've used Vesrah, japanese, via Dennis Kirk in the US. not sure where you are. They are better, still not stellar. Sand frequently, work to get full contact of the arc. I still use those in the twin shock 175 and some 350's. The 350 I converted to GG front wheel and 4 piston disc. posted here before. Awesome improvement. Not so much in power althought that is also much better, but as you find, in predictability and consistency from day to day, from application to application throughout the same day, from wet to dry, etc. kcj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbswm Posted September 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 thanks for the idea.the bike stopped better with the stock shoes but they unbonded from the steel shoe.i`ll try some other brand if i can match them up.i was thing those ebc were on the hard side.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beamish owners club Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I have brand new hubs on my Beamish and new EBC shoes - it wants 3 days written notice before it will stop! I may try the original shoes and avoid water....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moleman Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Got access to a lathe? then look here: http://www.realclassic.co.uk/techfiles/tech07071900.html doesnt really help with oval drums though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondanut Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 hi, welcome to the world of old bikes, my tlr has rubbish brakes despite doing all i can, i now ride without using brakes hardly at all, just use engine braking, and hope & pray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtlr Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 hi, welcome to the world of old bikes, my tlr has rubbish brakes despite doing all i can, i now ride without using brakes hardly at all, just use engine braking, and hope & pray! hello, than you should check your brakes, my tlr 200 brakes like a new bike (front wheel stoppies are no problem) check if the drum isnt oval and check if you have an I shaped cam on the leaver (there are also D shaped cams and they dont work that well) i ve fitted new brake shous (thinkt it was ebc but i a'm not sure, on my bultaco i've newfren and they are very good). regards bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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