Tlr 200 - Ignition Problems

[xtzoutback]

I have nearly finished the project, it's looking good but when the rebuild was finished and I kicked over the engine, it started and, as has been described in other posts, 'she was running like a dog', I was all set to strip down the engine etc etc but I took it to a mate of mine who said 'nah its electrical, you're engines strong' check the earths.....so I did and couldn't find anything wrong, I have two bikes so I took the HT lead from one and tried it on the other, changed plugs etc etc. getting a bit frustrated I was just about to put the tank back on and pretend it wasn't happening when I kicked her over again and out of the corner of my eye I could see a spark jumpingat the earthing wire just under the tank mounting bolt. The interesting thing is I had already cleaned the connections and refitted this wire only a couple of days earlier but what happens is when you strip out all the lighting electrics, you also loose another terminal and the bolt hits against the top of the airbox....so it feels tight but it isn't.

I put a washer in place, bent the terminal slightly so it wasn't shorting and now.....she runs like a pussy cat prrrrrrrrr..... It's very easily missed but is also very easily solved.

Just a bit of advice from upside down land

Cheers

[honda_tlr]

Was it misfiring ?????!!!!!!!!

[Guest majestyman340]

I have nearly finished the project, it's looking good but when the rebuild was finished and I kicked over the engine, it started and, as has been described in other posts, 'she was running like a dog', I was all set to strip down the engine etc etc but I took it to a mate of mine who said 'nah its electrical, you're engines strong' check the earths.....so I did and couldn't find anything wrong, I have two bikes so I took the HT lead from one and tried it on the other, changed plugs etc etc. getting a bit frustrated I was just about to put the tank back on and pretend it wasn't happening when I kicked her over again and out of the corner of my eye I could see a spark jumpingat the earthing wire just under the tank mounting bolt. The interesting thing is I had already cleaned the connections and refitted this wire only a couple of days earlier but what happens is when you strip out all the lighting electrics, you also loose another terminal and the bolt hits against the top of the airbox....so it feels tight but it isn't.

I put a washer in place, bent the terminal slightly so it wasn't shorting and now.....she runs like a pussy cat prrrrrrrrr..... It's very easily missed but is also very easily solved.

Just a bit of advice from upside down land

Cheers

Not 100% certain but at Malvern show it was hinted that the Uk producer of the works replica Honda chassis kits, posted on these forums a couple of years ago...........................if they are still with us, then probably would be able to help no problem.

Edited March 15, 2008 by majestyman340

[xtzoutback]

Yeah mate it was misfiring from about 1/3 throttle, it would just about run OK on tickover and very low revs but anything else it was throttle open and no pickup whatsoever.

As I said I was aware that this earthing point was vulnerable so I had cleaned it and the frame and was sure the connections were secure but because the bolt hits the top of the airbox, the bolt is tight but it doesn't tighten down onto the earth terminal.

I think I read your earlier posts with similar problems, I guess it may be a common fault when we start stripping wiring looms !!!

I rode the bike today, starts much easier than before, only a half hearted kick with very little choke. Brill....

New sprockets are on their way, i'm going to try an 11 - 48 combo but I also have 9 and 10 toothe sprockets so i'm sure i'll get something to work.

Out of interest the other bike I have is a white TLR200. Not a reflex but looks like an anniversary model as it has a trials championship 1983 sticker on the tank. It is still in road going trim and is mint.... Anyone seen another one ??

Cheers

A