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What year bike is it? Im having trouble with mine pinking more than i like.....eg even riding down the road.

Which iv tried moving the position of the needle, which i believe is down to running to lean.

Next step change the jets apparently. Its a keihin btw.

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Pinking is what happens when you leave the red plastic parts in the sun too long and they fade to pink. :hyper:

Seriously, pinking (or pinging for us USA folks) is technically called pre-ignition. This happens when the incoming fuel charge ignites early, even before the spark plug fires. This can happen for several reasons:

Timing set too far before top dead center,

Too lean of a mixture

A hot spot in the combustion chamber that lights the incoming fuel charge.

Too low fuel octane for the actual engine compression.

Because it runs well on choke, and not well off choke, I suspect the pilot jet is plugged or the mixture screw is not adjusted right. The idle circuit affect mixture throughout the rpm range, but more at idle and low RPMS.

The main jets and needle only affect the bike at mid to high RPM. Moving the needle down (clip to higher groove) will make the mixture even more lean.

Keihin carbs use an air screw to adjust rich/lean at idle. Turn in to reduce the air (more rich) turn out to increase the air (more lean).

Squish is set by adjusting thickness of the base gaskets. This is done when rebuilding the engine and does not change over time. If you want to reduce compression, you can add a thicker gasket but this involves removing the head and jug.

Decoking the head will reduce compression but more importantly, allow smooth swirl of the fuel charge in and out of the cylinder. Lean running bikes, rarely develop much coke buildup.

Some people confuse light piston slap with pinking. This is not a fuel problem, it is a wear problem.

Don't go crazy throwing parts at the bike or adjusting things at random. That may fix the symptom but not the root cause of the problem. Get a knowledgeable buddy to listen to the bike and do some real troubleshooting.

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I think its always been pinking in this country. I remember my dad demonstrating pinking in his Morris minor in the early 70's.

I had never heard of pinging till I came on this Forum.

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It's funny how there is such different versions of our language every where you go. So interesting. I remember being in Canada in 2006 and they used to get stuck into us Aussies for saying 'I reckon ........' It is so commonly used here you don't blink an eyelid, but there, we got laughed at. :thumbup:

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Well followed the advice given and went back to basics

Removed head and it was coked up cleaned up the head and piston

New plug .

Drained fuel

Replaced with super unleaded

No more pinking (pinging for our American friends) :)

Happy days.. I will keep you posted as haven't gone for a ride but ran it until nice and warm fan kicked in and no horrible noise when blip throttle..

Hope this helps someone else thanks all..

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