desmo_kid Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I have a 2010 Gas Gas 250, but starting her has been a problem due to a knee injury. First, it takes a good hard snap. Not so much of a problem, alone, but the kick lever hits the mount of the foot peg at the end of the throw, and being short throw it is hard for me to avoid bottoming out like this as it has to be kicked fast. So, I'm wondering about the 4RT. Does the lever hit against anything hard like this when you push it through? Do you have to give the lever a good hard snap? I would buy one if I knew about this one issue. But no dealer within hours and hours of me has one. Excited to hear replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithns Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I have a 4RT and it starts very easily, for the first start of the day 2 steady strokes of the kickstart and then 1 slightly more enthusiastic stroke rather than kick and away it goes, once started usually just one stroke of the kickstart, it does come onto the peg but as you are not using much force its not a problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I have a 4RT and it starts very easily, for the first start of the day 2 steady strokes of the kickstart and then 1 slightly more enthusiastic stroke rather than kick and away it goes, once started usually just one stroke of the kickstart, it does come onto the peg but as you are not using much force its not a problem Likewise, it's the easiest bike i have ever started and needs the merest 'push', most of the time and far less effort than my old 315R 2 stroke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I find some have a little trouble actually getting used to the fact that it's more of a push than a sharp kick. For me a 1/2 to 3/4 push fallowed by a smooth full push will start mine almost every time. Never feels harsh at the end of the stroke or slamming into the peg but will stop at the end of the strok. On a really cold morning I have had to give a 2nd full kick once in awhile but not often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tman427 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Been on the GasGas and know what it takes to kick it over along with other 2 strokes. Went to a Beta 4 stroke and had to learn how to kick start with the push the lever method. Once you learn, it is very simple and painless to do. Rode many Montesa 4 strokes as well, same deal. Just order a new 2016 Cota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmo_kid Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Guys, thanks!!!! I'm going to order one today. Now I have to decide, the big one or the normal one. One thing, if the big one is a lot tamer on the low traction setting I'll order it. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Its definitely a push rather than a kick as said above, I expect they could be started by hand but I've not tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 As above but I find it is difficult not to contact the footrest. Standard footrest and the lever tends to jam against the front edge of the rest requiring it to be folded up to release the kickstart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmo_kid Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Wow, that's what I'm looking for. Need to call the dealer now to order. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) We don't widely know yet how much different/better the 300 is but at least the 260 is readily available. Edited January 21, 2016 by 2stroke4stroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillary Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 What you need to understand is that every time you start it the first stroke of the lever primes the electrics/fuel and the second stroke starts the engine. Everything is done gently, just stroke it through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisa Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 What you need to understand is that every time you start it the first stroke of the lever primes the electrics/fuel and the second stroke starts the engine. Everything is done gently, just stroke it through. So every time you start it you push the kicker through a stroke and then a soft press starts it? I'll try that. I've had it a year and it's a cow's udder to start when hot. First kick when cold. On my 260Rt it starts fine in neutral. If its in gear it really struggles. Always had to give it a good kick though. I've tried slow kick. Maybe not the prime kick as above though. Sometimes its like the ecu is confused. When its hot and switched off for 5 mins it sometimes won't start unless i hold full throttle, give it a couple of light kicks to reset it, then it starts first time! Now Im left wondering if the one or two reset kicks are actually just priming it as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I would try a prime kick/push and see. Bet it would work. FYI even if you can start it with one kick I might give it a prime kick when cold, it seems to help set the system for altitude/air density in my exp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 So every time you start it you push the kicker through a stroke and then a soft press starts it? I'll try that. I've had it a year and it's a cow's udder to start when hot. First kick when cold. On my 260Rt it starts fine in neutral. If its in gear it really struggles. Always had to give it a good kick though. I've tried slow kick. Maybe not the prime kick as above though. Sometimes its like the ecu is confused. When its hot and switched off for 5 mins it sometimes won't start unless i hold full throttle, give it a couple of light kicks to reset it, then it starts first time! Now Im left wondering if the one or two reset kicks are actually just priming it as above. Just checking you are stopping it with the kill button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisa Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I've removed mine and fitted a lanyard switch, so yes I guess. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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