s.e.lucas Report post Posted March 2, 2016 These days I'd be more worried about companies' reliability than bikes. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornishtwinspring Report post Posted March 2, 2016 Yes that's true!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwb5151 Report post Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) These days I'd be more worried about companies' reliability than bikes. I will definatly agree on that i worry more about the company's reliability instead of the bike. First it was gas gas, then it was ossa nows its jotagas but hopefully they will all come out better than what they where. Well the new gas gas looks good but the build quality puts me off but the way it rides well if it rides like the 2014 model it will be good. Edited March 4, 2016 by dwb5151 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neils on wheels Report post Posted March 6, 2016 im intrugued with what a 138lb rides like. props for them building a ti bike that they will have to add weight to for TrialGP --biff PS dear vertigo. please make a 120lb bike. im not getting any smaller. I very much doubt the bike weighs 138lb (62.7Kg). All the manufacturers seem to quote weights 2-3Kg lighter than reality. After all what is the point? FIM have imposed a 70Kg minimum weight, so the manufacturers produce high end bikes for club riders? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyc21 Report post Posted March 6, 2016 I very much doubt the bike weighs 138lb (62.7Kg). All the manufacturers seem to quote weights 2-3Kg lighter than reality. After all what is the point? FIM have imposed a 70Kg minimum weight, so the manufacturers produce high end bikes for club riders? It is quite believable to me, and even the same when talking about the FIM's imposed weight limits what better way to make a bike handle the way you wanted to then be able to put the weight where it is most beneficial. And heck just like fast exotic cars people out there are more than willing to pay for that exotic extra cool motorcycle! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
africanjon Report post Posted March 7, 2016 FIM riders do not buy bikes, we do. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazybond700 Report post Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) It is quite believable to me, and even the same when talking about the FIM's imposed weight limits what better way to make a bike handle the way you wanted to then be able to put the weight where it is most beneficial. And heck just like fast exotic cars people out there are more than willing to pay for that exotic extra cool motorcycle! Its far more beneficial for amature rides (like most) that frames do not crack etc. Make my frame 2 kg heavier please! A factory rider does not have a problem when cracks occure (and they will, on all bikes, that level) but I dont think a amateur should have to worry about replacing frames. (and yes also Honda/GG/etc frames do) Edited March 8, 2016 by crazybond700 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manx2day Report post Posted March 8, 2016 Will the weight they are quoting be a dry weight or is it fully loaded with fuel and oil? The dry weights tend to be advertised more than wet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
