FUTURE TRAIL lightweight rectifier base and capacitor help.

[mat]

Hello,

Has any one fitted a lightweight capacitor and / or a carbon rectifier base.

Is the new smaller capacitor just zip tied on?  Is it good practice to heat shrink or rubber mount the capacitor in some way or will it survive as is - current size is 22 mm x 31 mm ? 

Not convinced with the carbon bracket and am thinking of modding the existing metal bracket to suit so the fan regulator mount and rear brake reservoir remain and smaller capacitor fits in a similar way on the mock up ??.

 

Any help or pics to show what others have done please ?

Edited January 30, 2018 by mat

[chatlie44]

What issues do you have with the carbon one? 

[mat]

Hello Chatlie44,

To my untrained eye on the carbon version I either need to reshape the existing capacitor tang to site the fan relay or cut it off as it is redundant with the new smaller capacitor ?

Either way i still need to fabricate a bracket for the rear brake reservoir and maybe the fan relay unless I just tuck it away.

I am know thinking that a lightened (drilled) and adapted powder coated factory bracket that cleans the are up is a smarter option ?

Any thoughts ?

 

 

 

 

[jimmyl]

Doesn't the fan relay fit behind head stock if you dump the plastic catch tank?

[mat]

Hi Jimmyl,

I did think that but read the below and think now think around the original position is the better option ?

"Removing the fan relay mounting tang and Bank Angle sensor and mount leaves a lot more room for the main wiring connectors behind the cylinder.

They tuck in much better under the throttle body in the large plastic sock. This leaves plenty of room for the fan relay to be sited between the main connector sock and the capacitor. Thus the relay moves inboard with much shorter wires. (There were two separate power wires running through the loom to the headstock and then back in the separate sleeve to the relay, but on unwrapping the loom the two wires were tee’d together nearer to the supply point.) I now have one much shorter wire running direct to the relay and tee’d just before the relay. The blue/black also now runs direct to the relay instead of up and back."

 

[jimmyl]

unless you are going to shorten the wires  -up under the head stock keeps it out off harms  -and water and muds -way? - I think?

[jonnyc21]

I am over carful and would put a wrap of rubber tube around the capacitor and then zip tie it.  My 2 cents.

[ymirtrials]

Who makes this aftermarket capacitor in the photo?  Are you switching only for a weight reduction?

[mat]

Hello Ymirtrails,

The capacitor was from Future Trails  - Based in Italy but it a sum of all its parts so will takes some pics of the capacitor for you and you could build one quite easily.

Best, Mat

[mat]

On 01/02/2018 at 8:34 AM, mat said:

Hello Ymirtrails,

The capacitor was from Future Trails  - Based in Italy but it a sum of all its parts so will takes some pics of the capacitor for you and you could build one quite easily.

Best, Mat

 

[mrwobbly]

Hi Mat 

Seems like a lot of trouble to shed a few ounces,why not just go for a ****!.  

[Johnny Reggie]

On 1/29/2018 at 8:56 AM, mat said:

Hello,

Has any one fitted a lightweight capacitor and / or a carbon rectifier base.

Is the new smaller capacitor just zip tied on?  Is it good practice to heat shrink or rubber mount the capacitor in some way or will it survive as is - current size is 22 mm x 31 mm ? 

Not convinced with the carbon bracket and am thinking of modding the existing metal bracket to suit so the fan regulator mount and rear brake reservoir remain and smaller capacitor fits in a similar way on the mock up ??.

 

Any help or pics to show what others have done please ?

Hi Mat, Where did you get to on this? I have the same issue - thinking I'd ditch the overweight capacitor and bracket - I bought the Future Trial bits. Scratching my head wondering about reservoir and small capacitor mounting. I've ditched the bank angle sensor and tidying the area is a good thing to do but it seems I have half a solution... Cheers

[mat]

Hi Johnny,

In the end I trimmed up the original bracket - drilled it a little and powder coated it black, mounted with for ever shiny ti bolts - currently using original capacitor - next time i service i will mount the smaller capacitor on the original bracket in the original position with zip ties and a rubber pad.  Looks a little neater.  I will take a photo if of interest.

Thanks, Mat

[konrad]

Personally, I would not replace the original capacitor.  There can be significant differences in the quality of electrolytic capacitors and some inexpensive brands have a very high failure rate.

You can learn some of the generalities here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

[Johnny Reggie]

Thanks Mat, this morning I fitted the Future Trial bracket and light weight capacitor. I moved the chunky old relay up under the headstock, cable tied the small capacitor to the upright on the bracket and used a cable tie to keep the brake reservoir upright (in effect the reservoir is suspended from the frame cross member under the seat area. Whilst I didn't like the idea of cable ties actually it worked out fine. Once removed the bracket and capacitor are pretty heavy items!

As Konrad says cheap capacitors can be unreliable - I have heard this said. I went for the Future trial capacitor - I figured the Italian guys have always been strong on auto electrics ? Let see how we go!

Cheers, Reggie