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Hi.

Got a beta evo which needs a minor job doing. Cant get the back brake to work propperly. All the trials repair places seem to be over Yorkshire way. Most motorcycle mechanics even people i know who are handy with MX bikes dont want to touch trials. If anyone knows anyone local to me who like to fix trials bike please can you post their details?

 

Thanks  alot.

Chris

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1 hour ago, Wigan Lad said:

Hi.

Got a beta evo which needs a minor job doing. Cant get the back brake to work propperly. All the trials repair places seem to be over Yorkshire way. Most motorcycle mechanics even people i know who are handy with MX bikes dont want to touch trials. If anyone knows anyone local to me who like to fix trials bike please can you post their details?

 

Thanks  alot.

Chris

They are not mechanics or handy if they are fearful of sorting  your rear brake .....they all work the same way if they are hydraulic brakes ....a [real] car mechanic could sort your rear brake or a bicycle mechanic..........learn how to do it yourself there is not exactly a lot to it...put in 'how to bleed a dirt bike rear brake youtube' in your search engine and study how to do it  then buy a £20 vacuum pump kit made by Nielsen on ebuy or wherever and suck the fluid through the system .....its the most effective way of doing it .......you need to take off the very small clearish plastic reservoir and connect something with more fluid capacity so that you do not have to keep filling it up ...I connect a funnel that I fix in an upright position using cable ties and put the back wheel off the ground using a paddock stand to raise the brake calliper above  the master cylinder then suck the fluid through ....if you are very lucky you will get a firm brake pedal straight away .....if you do not you just have to have patience and keep working .......N.B if you have any badly worn or damaged seals or a perforated brake hose you will never be able bleed the brake properly.

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Thanks for the reply Oni. I have got a bleeding kit, and watched many youtube vids and spent over 6 hours this weekend trying to sort it doing various different things some of which you have suggested. I did like the comment about swapping the reservoir for something larger as it has been p****** me off keep extracting and pushing fluid through it. Now that said, do you know any one / garage in and around the NW area who fixes trials bikes? Not only am I **** with brakes but bikes in general so it would be good to find someone i can take it to for this or any other potential issues.

Regards

Chris

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2 hours ago, Wigan Lad said:

 THThanks for the reply Oni. I have got a bleeding kit, and watched many youtube vids and spent over 6 hours this weekend trying to sort it doing various different things some of which you have suggested. I did like the comment about swapping the reservoir for something larger as it has been p****** me off keep extracting and pushing fluid through it. Now that said, do you know any one / garage in and around the NW area who fixes trials bikes? Not only am I **** with brakes but bikes in general so it would be good to find someone i can take it to for this or any other potential issues.

Regards

Chris

The rear brake can be a pain to get perfect feeling ....You may need a new master cylinder or piston kit....  Trail and Trials in  Kearsley   253 MANCHESTER ROAD BL4 8QX .....do not know them and have not used them....good luck.

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Cheers Nebulous. The problem with someone 30 miles is that with work i can only drop it somewhere at the weekend and it would mean collecting the weekend after. The guy at FICS is probably more than capable of doing it but the guy tried to rip me off years ago.

I took an Aprilia RS125 up there for him 2 sell. Alot of the bikes he advertises he is selling on behalf of people. I was emigrating to NZ and he said he would buy it off me if he could not sell it before i was leaving ( the bike was immac with low miles and he could not sell it in 2 months). Agreed a price, then offered me less with some sob story, I agreed and he said it would be a couple of weeks until he had the money. Came to collect it and he offered me less again with some more sob storey. End of the day he knew i was leaving the country and needed to get shut of it so he was stalling me right up to the end so he could get the bike for nothing. I went ape**** at him and threatened to knock him out! He bought the bike in the end for the original price agreed.

Long storey their but anyhow. Itlf anyone else can reccomend someone or garage it would be much appreciated.

 

Regard

Chris

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50 minutes ago, Wigan Lad said:

Cheers Nebulous. The problem with someone 30 miles is that with work i can only drop it somewhere at the weekend and it would mean collecting the weekend after. The guy at FICS is probably more than capable of doing it but the guy tried to rip me off years ago.

I took an Aprilia RS125 up there for him 2 sell. Alot of the bikes he advertises he is selling on behalf of people. I was emigrating to NZ and he said he would buy it off me if he could not sell it before i was leaving ( the bike was immac with low miles and he could not sell it in 2 months). Agreed a price, then offered me less with some sob story, I agreed and he said it would be a couple of weeks until he had the money. Came to collect it and he offered me less again with some more sob storey. End of the day he knew i was leaving the country and needed to get shut of it so he was stalling me right up to the end so he could get the bike for nothing. I went ape**** at him and threatened to knock him out! He bought the bike in the end for the original price agreed.

Long storey their but anyhow. Itlf anyone else can reccomend someone or garage it would be much appreciated.

 

Regard

Chris

Terrible, that is very unusual that some one tried to screw some one over for money....luckily these sort of incidents only happen on a second by second basis on a global scale so you have just been unlucky....wrong place wrong time,

That is why I suggested doing it yourself really .....I do everything myself, [it got to the point where I just could not afford to keep everyone elses lifestyles going] .....I mean everything not  just bike repairs ...the car, household electrics the lot .....I must of saved 100's of thousands because of not being ripped off. When you do a job yourself you know every detail from start to finish,and you will have a lot more money.

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Hi Oni.

 

I agree with doing as much as you can yourself. I dont mind having a go at things but sometimes you come to stuff that you spend ages on and either get no further with or make things worse. I dont mind admitting defeat when ive had a good go at something and paying someone who knows more than me a fair price to sort things. Just struggling to find a good local trials mechanic.

 

Regards

Chris

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1 minute ago, Wigan Lad said:

Hi Oni.

 

I agree with doing as much as you can yourself. I dont mind having a go at things but sometimes you come to stuff that you spend ages on and either get no further with or make things worse. I dont mind admitting defeat when ive had a good go at something and paying someone who knows more than me a fair price to sort things. Just struggling to find a good local trials mechanic.

 

Regards

Chris

Have you called Trail and Trials  or is Kearsley too far.

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Road bikes Nebulous but thanks anyway. I will keep yellow pages in mind when i want my road bike servicing and MOT.

I will try Darren many thanks.

Chris

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2 hours ago, Nebulous said:

What?  Sorry sir , we don’t do off-roaders. Don’t know where they’ve been. We’re trying to run a 5-star , two-wheeled boutique here , and you come in with your wellies and cow**** stuck to your tyres?  That’s real Wilton carpet don’t you know? Fifty pounds a square metre.  Last chap of your type had half a sheep’s head stuck to his forks. So , just to confirm - we only do proper bikes with seats , and ....... what do you mean you’ll knock me out?    A gold-edition Ducati 916 might do that sir - but not that disgusting health-hazard you’re pushing. Yeeeuk!

https://advrider.com/index.php?threads/bleeding-linked-brakes-for-the-complete-idiot.1091921/

People who ride road bikes are obviously easier to fleece or they are so wealthy they do not need to be stretchered out when they get the bill because they fell over as their pants were round their ankles......Excellent thanks.£50 for 1/2 hrs labour I was expecting it to be more........I once watched a geezer pay  over £11 for a paint  touch up stick for his car at a Ford main dealer and he just paid up without a murmur.......I was there to find out how much a set of replacement keys for a Transit were ......Around £130  and then some said the lunatic behind the counter.

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13 hours ago, oni nou said:

People who ride road bikes are obviously easier to fleece or they are so wealthy they do not need to be stretchered out when they get the bill because they fell over as their pants were round their ankles......Excellent thanks.£50 for 1/2 hrs labour I was expecting it to be more........I once watched a geezer pay  over £11 for a paint  touch up stick for his car at a Ford main dealer and he just paid up without a murmur.......I was there to find out how much a set of replacement keys for a Transit were ......Around £130  and then some said the lunatic behind the counter.

Having run a number of franchised garages and main dealerships I can tell you that there’s an awful lot more to the hourly charge out rate. I could go on about overheads ( all worked into that rate) I could go on about the mandatory factory trading and specialised mandatory tools (you have to buy to remain in franchise) I could go on about the sundries needed to operate, oils, overalls coporate uniforms, overalls, health and safety essentials, ramps, which all need maintenance etc. The dead money areas like reception staff and cleaners etc etc. This is why it is wrong to compare high street with back street, I’m not about to criticise ‘the back street garage’ because many of them do a dammed good job especially when they nick a factory trained technician/mechanic. Oh and then there’s all the electronic kit needed to meet franchise agreement status...£££££! I think at today’s prices £50 for half an hour is probably about right. Just don’t go to London and expect to find bargain labour rates. I used to have to charge £60 before the 24/7 breakdown truck left the forecourt, well would you sit st home waiting for the phone to call you away from your comfy home out into the winters night! 

If Wigan lad cares to post pictures of the rear brake assembly we should be able to help him solve his issues....Wigan lad are you up for a bit more work? Have you tried inserting between the pads and caliper pistons either hard plastic strips or lollipop sticks to force the caliper pistons right back into the caliper housing. This reduces lost movement and it’s something cycle mechanics do as well as experienced car mechanics working on more complex systems. This method is not always needed but I had to do this on my mates Aprilia Futura to achieve a really good pedal. When you bleed the system drawing the fluid out by suction (depression) is sometimes the best method, however if the rear master cylinder is leaking, these can leak air in as well as fluid out, then you need a new assembly or a kit if the bores not worn. The same goes for the caliper. On some bikes it’s possible to remove the entire rear brake system off the bike in one bit and then you can work on it on the bench, or take it to a cycle shop or garage or bike dealer and ask the question. 🙂👍👨‍💻👨‍🔧 If you were nearer and the bike could be brought to my place I’d give it a go while you watched/helped but Wigan is a fair old way to Robin Hood Country.

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Finally found some one.

 

Dave Clarke Racing near Preston. He specialises in MX bikes and used to have is own supermoto team in the british championship. Willing to work on the evo.

 

Cheer for your help gents.

Chris

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Sorry sections swept. I just seen your post. Thanks for the offer regarding the pictures and advice etc much appreciated. I have found someone local willing to look at it for me. I can drop with him on my way to work as he is local to the office.

 

As I said i am not against having a go at things but i do not mind paying a mechanic or anyone who can sort something i cannot. He might charge me £50 for bleeding the brake but when you earn £300 a day, and you spend 6 hours looking at something that you cannot get right, plus £25 quid in halfords for oil and  gear, £50 is cheap compared to £250 in theory it has already cost  me 😉

 

Regards

Chris

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