irishjohn Report post Posted March 13, 2020 Sold my ‘17 Montesa 4rt and bought a left over ‘19 Vertical Combat. I love this bike! So much easier to ride in all respects... except one, starting. If I have a tree to lean against or a rock to stand on where I can get up over the bike, I can start it 1st or 2nd kick. But if none of those available no way. What am I doing wrong? How do I position my body to get enough leverage to kick it over????? i tried using the side stand to support the bike while that worked, it bends the side stand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsp Report post Posted March 13, 2020 I find my 19 likes a tiny bit of throttle when starting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the dabster Report post Posted March 13, 2020 Three kicks to start from cold is normal. Engage the kickstart with the throttle closed and prime it with a soft push through the stroke, second kick engage top of stroke again and push through with some throttle on. It will go on the third kick with a swift kick from the top and approx. quarter throttle kept on as you kick through, it needs throttle to start don't roll it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sergioNMD Report post Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, the dabster said: Three kicks to start from cold is normal. Engage the kickstart with the throttle closed and prime it with a soft push through the stroke, second kick engage top of stroke again and push through with some throttle on. It will go on the third kick with a swift kick from the top and approx. quarter throttle kept on as you kick through, it needs throttle to start don't roll it off. I also had a 2019 Vertigo. I confirm what @the dabster said. I also had a Montesa 4rt and you definetely have to put more energy in the way you kick.. Lot more strenght. What I never solved was the tendency of my 2019 Vertigo kickstarter lever to not fully return to the upright position... Tried changing the oil seal, tried greasing it, tried degreasing it, tried filing down the kickstart shaft with ultra fine sandpaper... But nothing helped. It improved a little when the engine got hot.... Go figure. Edited March 14, 2020 by sergioNMD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishjohn Report post Posted March 14, 2020 Thanks for the responses. Maybe I’m to short. If I can get above the pivot point, no problem kicking through. Is there a way to position the bike to get more leverage, lean it to the left? Stand close the left side or away from it, etc etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcrhino Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Not only kick down, but also a bit to the back of the bike. And what Dabster said: swift kick from the top. What does help me when I am tired: put the baseplate on a log or stone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishjohn Report post Posted March 21, 2020 Thanks all. Been doing a bit of leg work to get more kick to my kick. She’s a grand bike though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysktms Report post Posted March 22, 2020 Usually 3 kicks here also, and a bit of throttle to fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
