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Bought a 2018 4RT recently & have a couple of questions I hope someone can help with after my first ride at the weekend

firstly is the throttle with Montesa written on it a fast or slow action throttle? It does have a black body but seems a little fast

secondly regarding the clutch 

it only bites when the lever is almost fully out, not a big problem but I’d prefer the bite point to be around half way

I’ve had a 2T before & used the elf oil, changed to dimpled plates & also Haven (think that’s what they where) friction plates so I’ll be doing the same with the 4RT

question is 

is it worth doing the Friction plates on the 4RT? Or just the dimpled plates?

thanks

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Here is my 2 cents for what its worth. 

  1. Yes the Throttle is a slow (black) - I changed mine to a white and it was very noticeable how much quicker it is now. 
  2. You can adjust the clutch lever to your preference for the point the clutch bites with the adjustment screws.  I have known a few people even lightly file/grind the pin to get it even closer to the bars in some cases.   (Same on the brake lever side for adjustment)
  3. Friction plates or just the dimpled plates?  I think you will get the most progressive clutch feel if you do both, however the larger portion of the change is just the dimpled plates.  If do go just the plates I would stick with the higher quality oils for best results.

PS. If your not sure on what oil you want to use its best to two changes between the different oils for the best results between the different types (if you want changing it early to figure it out faster I would go at least a couple hours of riding on the first change before going to the second)

Hope this helps. 

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hi jonnyc21

good to know ive a slow action throttle

thought about altering the adjustment screws but thought it might still feel the same (on/off) but nearer the bars

so guess it’s the elf oil & dimpled plates as a minimum 

from memory friction plates were more expensive than the steel ones but there are more of them 

the clutch will need bleeding won’t it once I’ve changed the plates?

thanks

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5 hours ago, Cookiemonster said:

firstly is the throttle with Montesa written on it a fast or slow action throttle? It does have a black body but seems a little fast

It is not the colour of the body that denotes fast or slow (bodies on all dominos that I have seen are black) it is the colour of the tube that denotes fast/slow. White fast - black slow.  Hope this helps.

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I would change oil first and see if it makes a difference before spending money.

Don’t think the clutch will need bleeding as cover comes off without disconnecting hydraulics if I recall 

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Thanks jonnyc21

I’ll re oil the air filter as suggested

ELF oil gets delivered tomorrow so I’ll change that over the weekend & see how I get on

fitted a wireless aprico hour/tachometer today at the bolt that holds down the fuel tank near handle bars

when I switched from hours to RPM it maxed at ~ 500 RPM & not the ~ 1800 RPM  I was expecting

could this be due to the distance it is from the spark plug?

cheers 

 

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18 minutes ago, Cookiemonster said:

Thanks jonnyc21

I’ll re oil the air filter as suggested

ELF oil gets delivered tomorrow so I’ll change that over the weekend & see how I get on

fitted a wireless aprico hour/tachometer today at the bolt that holds down the fuel tank near handle bars

when I switched from hours to RPM it maxed at ~ 500 RPM & not the ~ 1800 RPM  I was expecting

could this be due to the distance it is from the spark plug?

cheers 

 

Read the instructions that come with the meter, you have it set on multi cylinder not single.

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Worth buying a couple of air filters then always got a clean one

Get a Flame  proof after market one saves fiddling with original foam and metal cage.

once oiled leave to dry on the bench as if you put into air box straight away will I’ve starting issues until any solvent evaporated 👍👍

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