Andy Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 There Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 With nearly 9000 viewings of the bike on this site in under a week, that in itself tells you what interest there is in the launch. Nearly 100 postings have said it all, so I shan’t add to them, except to say that we wait with baited breath for a production machine to see whether it can be as good as it looks. Just for those interested, the normal "Forums View" stats per month in terms of popularity normally run: 1. General Trials Talk 2. UK Trials Talk 3. Beta/Gas Gas (these two alternate in terms of popularity) 4. Sherco 5. Montesa 6. USA Trials 7. Twinshock 8. World Championship Chat 9. Scorpa 10. Honda. These are the stats for November so far. General Trials Talk is usually 30,000+ views ahead of every other forum each month so for both Sherco & Ossa to be above GTT is pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizza5 Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Now for some good news. Isn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) Expect the minders and helpers will do the gardening now instead, and the riders will know what to expect as they'll be told, won't this shorten the length of an event quite abit? gets better for the spectator every year As Gizza said, nice big **** off hanging hill climbs,roots and cambers Edited November 15, 2009 by The Addict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big john Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) Look folks, this is plain WRONG. Never mind the riders, what about us spectators. One of the pleasures of watching World Championship trials is to see your hero, in the flesh, walking, talking, inspecting, adjusting his dress, having a pee in the bushes out of sight, in fact generally being part of the show. To be lined up at the side of a section and with no action to watch except for each rider coming through is not what folks will have paid for. It is not only wrong, it is downright dangerous. It could lead to an seriously injured rider suing the clerk of the course, the point being all riders must be allowed to inspect any competitive course traversed by a motorcycle, thus allowing the competitor to decide whether or not he feels it is safe to attempt the course! Conditions can change by the hour, especially here in Scotland where there is to be a world round in 2010, I think the FIM have slipped up seriously this time! Big John Edited November 15, 2009 by Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Don't worry, the cash strapped teams will probably choose to employ a 'video minder' to show the line to their rider whilst describing it over the helmet intercom...progress in deed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 It is not only wrong, it is downright dangerous. It could lead to an seriously injured rider suing the clerk of the course, the point being all riders must be allowed to inspect any competitive course traversed by a motorcycle, thus allowing the competitor to decide whether or not he feels it is safe to attempt the course!Conditions can change by the hour, especially here in Scotland where there is to be a world round in 2010, I think the FIM have slipped up seriously this time! Big John Yes, I agree, downright dangerous! Just think how often you clean a section on the first lap to find it impossible on the second lap due to deteriation of some kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I think you will find that the riders are allowed to look at the sections but in the taped off area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 F4%k the spectators, I hope this will only be for WTC events cause at my age I need to walk sections to remember which way to go ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa. Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I think you will find that the riders are allowed to look at the sections but in the taped off area I expect this to be correct. Makes it harder for them modifying to section when the observer is not looking. Saves the observer calling out to clear the section of people before a rider enters a section. May give the spectator a clearer view of the rider if it is not obscured by the other riders stepping into view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Add to all this there will be only one "Team Manager" bib given? So does that mean that any others are not only forbidden from entering the section as a minder, but following the course as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot 3 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) Just for those interested, the normal "Forums View" stats per month in terms of popularity normally run:1. General Trials Talk 2. UK Trials Talk 3. Beta/Gas Gas (these two alternate in terms of popularity) 4. Sherco 5. Montesa 6. USA Trials 7. Twinshock 8. World Championship Chat 9. Scorpa 10. Honda. These are the stats for November so far. General Trials Talk is usually 30,000+ views ahead of every other forum each month so for both Sherco & Ossa to be above GTT is pretty impressive. What about Kenny the Rooster?????? The Ossa - Fantastic..... The rule change, agree its downright dangerous but as some of the later posts have said it does prevent "gardening", be interesting to see what happens first time one of the beloved Spanish riders cracks themselves because they were not able to inspect properly. I have nothing against them, I have some very good friends in the Spanish Trials fraternity but this stinks. Following up on Gizza's post, this bothers me more than anything else, WHY have the FIM allowed the Spaniards to make the call, why have they bent to pressure rather than make an independant decision which benefits the whole sport rather than the few Spanish superstars.......more years of confusion to follow!! Edited November 16, 2009 by Slapshot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilc0 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 There seems to be alot of chatter going on about the French Openfree system,would we be happy with that working at WTC level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big john Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I sometimes wonder if trials has lost its way in the fog. It must be the only off road motorcycle sport that constantly keeps changing its rules. At least with motocross, its the guy first past the finish flag! Big John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02-apr Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I don't know enough about the politics of World trials to know why the Spanish would want this but back in the days when trials were run in black and white instead of colour this idea was tried (once only) at a National in order to prevent delay at a group of 3 straightforward, but long and challenging, continuous sections. And there was absolutely no inspection allowed, unless you called by that way en route to the event for a sneaky look but I don't imagine anyone took it that seriously. It certainly did not work, it just meant 90% of the entry was sat there in a queue on their bikes instead of walking the sections and being able to assist those who got stuck, so I don't think it will significantly shorten events as someone feared. As far as I can tell from my infrequent viewing of World rounds everyone seems to be forced to take much the same line, in comparison with the old days, so watching from a taped off area may be adequate to tell if there is any difficulty developing. Which does not mean I think it is the right way to go, I'll leave the arguing to those affected by the ruling and hope, as someone said, that it does not spread down the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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