Hi I have got to a point where all the obstacles where I ride are either very easy for me or to big but I also have very limited choice apart from a big mound of dirt and a few rocks I have been trying to learn double blip I can get a small amount of rear wheel lift but it just goes straight up and down no forward movement so I either get over small rocks or clatter inti them with bash plate if bigger I have watched many videos and still can't master the techniques any help and advice would be great

I found that as I got better at front wheel hops my double blip timing got better, maybe if you haven't done so yet work on getting the front hop at least to the point you can start making it go right and or left at your choice and they try to use the same timing on the double blip? 

 

best of luck.

OK thanks I haven't done much hopping so will try that for a while then go back to trying double blip is there a big jump needed to get rear up as the good riders on video seem to make it look effortless

If you cant get good lift with the rearend your more than likely lifting your feet off the pegs as you unload.

I could well be lifting my feet off pegs but not realising any tips on trying to solve this problem

Can you post a video of what you are doing?

 

If you hit the bashplate while riding obstacles you often dont hit the front wheel. The obstacle needs to be hit with the front wheel (around 50 to 75% of the height of the obstacle).

 

Like mentioned above a video might give us some insight in how to help you.

Edited July 4, 201610 yr by crazybond700

It may look effortless in videos but if you look closely you will see the rear mudguard is typically touching the rear wheel before take off the only way that happens is if you put a fair amount of effort into the pegs. Just like jumping from a stand still without a bike you need to squat down pretty hard if you want to get a lot of lift up... if that makes sense. As mentioned above it is also a matter of hitting the obstacle with the front wheel as this helps in compressing the bike before lift off so it is more than just the power in your legs.

Edited July 4, 201610 yr by michael_t

Still not mastered this technique yet I can hit front wheel off obstacles and wheelie over them but still can't get rear wheel lift obstacles are only about 10 inches high so not big any tips would be great as a bit stuck just now

Still not mastered this technique yet I can hit front wheel off obstacles and wheelie over them but still can't get rear wheel lift obstacles are only about 10 inches high so not big any tips would be great as a bit stuck just now

 

Jump!

 

You literally have to jump as if you wanted to clear the obstacle without a bike. I'm just a novice and I used to just end up smashing the back wheel into the obstacle until I started "deweighting" the bike. You need to make sure your legs are bent all the way through the technique, if you straighten them, it drives the rear wheel down. 

I would learn the roll up with double blip before trying to get the rear wheel to lift with the double blip. You can get up and over some big stuff with the roll up. The rear wheel lifted off the ground is only really needed when the obstacle is undercut.

I would learn the roll up with double blip before trying to get the rear wheel to lift with the double blip. You can get up and over some big stuff with the roll up. The rear wheel lifted off the ground is only really needed when the obstacle is undercut.

You're absolutely right here! I couldn't get the roll up right so thought you always needed to lift the rear but today I was shown the difference and was amazed what I could get up without jumping.

The thing I needed to do was let off the throttle sooner and get right forward as the bike went vertical.

Edited September 24, 20169 yr by al_orange