September 7, 200917 yr Circumstances usually exist to prevent this column from announcing hot news from the trials world, but if what I hear is true, World Championship trials next year will be given a new title. Look out, Dynamic Trials, is about to arrive. And guess what, the new name heralds a new change to the rulings, in Dynamic Trials, forward motion must be maintained at all times. No sniggering at the back there please. This is not a return to no-stop, this is Dynamic Trials in which forward motion must be maintained at all times. It
September 7, 200917 yr A bit of friction makes it all so worth while!! But remember to lubricate the moving parts every now and then, because friction causes wear and tear, dont ya know? Big John
September 7, 200917 yr I started this column this week with a tongue in cheek referral to Dynamic Trials
September 7, 200917 yr The old saying goes, "if it isn't broke, don't try to fix it" well I don't think anyone will dispute the fact it is broke, but why try and fix it with old used broken parts.?.
September 7, 200917 yr What a mess - they done a great job on this didn't they ? In relation to Raga, did Gas Gas discuss it with him before advocating a change to no-stop? and why did the factories think this is the answer? Answer me this? how the hell is the minder meant to get into position on the big elements in time if the riders have to keep moving? Have they thought of that? Like I said before, the word dynamic doesn't spring to mind when you think about the upper echelons of the trials world Edited September 7, 200917 yr by AtomAnt
September 7, 200917 yr It isn't broke and in my experience its very dynamic(depending on your precise definition of the word). How many WTC's have you two seen over the last few years?
September 7, 200917 yr I agree with you about changing to go no stop Dabster, I don't think it will solve anything and probably get changed back, just like it did a few years ago. Not seen a trial since Duluth, just isn't dynamic enough for me to go watse mi money on.
September 8, 200917 yr Dynamic Trial's. How Gay does that sound. This is all starting to sound B*****ks. Edited September 8, 200917 yr by bilc0
September 8, 200917 yr Just thoughts, but the time limit IS the key to a more dynamic trial. One would have to exceed "par" on the course, which could be adjusted per section if need be. The stricter rule on time could also play into a reduction of difficulty on a given line! Best of both, with stricter for the upper classmen. No longer being able to sit there and line up. Where is "par" ?
September 8, 200917 yr I'm still trying to work out where these "savings" are coming from?? I can see the riders wanting more Minders rather than less as they have to cover the hazards quicker. The problem is down to the fact it's a "World" trial. The factories have to commit to a budget to get to all the rounds and that limits the number of riders. How many Private riders can afford to ship a Bike (or two), to the USA, let alone Japan. It takes Sponsorship and TV coverage and Trials is not in any form a "good" TV sport. There is not enough area on the bikes or riders for Sponsors. Cameras on the bike's increase the weight and are vulnerable and sections can be a long way apart. You would need at least 2 cameras a section with all the people associated with it and the infrastructure needed to support them. Rallying is the closest equivalent and in many cases they rely on amateur cameras to get the best shots. Until TV can get a handle on Trials the money will only come from the factories and the number of bikes sold will dictate the WC not what rules we run under.
September 8, 200917 yr It isn't broke and in my experience its very dynamic(depending on your precise definition of the word).How many WTC's have you two seen over the last few years? See the thing is Dabster, you had a personal interest in trials because of Wiggy. I was the same when supporting Ross so being amongst it we would have a biased view. The trouble is, being outside of it now like I am, I'm trying to see where the appeal is to get other people into the sport and watch something thats exciting and entertaining. Theres no doubt the skill is there at the top level, but its not exciting to watch in its current form. Keeping them moving would help probably but adding something new like gate as well may also work. I just think coming out with a no-stop declaration from the FIM was lazy. What other alternatives did they look at? who did they discuss it with? What analysis did they do for market research etc etc etc. Just expected much more from the top. Sadly disappointed
September 8, 200917 yr Just expected much more from the top. I did'nt,problem with the Top they don't want to hear from the bottom never have that's why we're in this situation today. Gate Trials will mend this sorry mess,but will they want 100 --200 rider's entering a WTC. I firmly believe that whoever is involved with these WTC's at high level are just happy with the handfull of rider's they have at this moment in time but they also want the money.
September 8, 200917 yr If there was no minders to pay for then surely the factories could afford to put more money into riders, ie pay more to actually compete. Regardless of stop or no stop rules, shorter / smaller sections with a relatively tight time limit of say a minute per section, no minders allowed, would this give a more dynamic sport which would be rider, tv & spectator friendly? Edited September 8, 200917 yr by PERCE
September 8, 200917 yr If the top riders are so good why do they need a minder to tell them where to put the bike?????? I mentioned in my other post that it was quoted that a rider took 4 minutes to complete a section in the intercentre team trial, then teams were excluded for not completing in time. If this is typical no wonder the entries are small if they are waiting for the balancers to make their mind up or await the minders instruction. Martin
