How do you measure the rise of handlebars?

The Renthal website has a drawing that shows all the measurements along with the standard fittings for most bikes.

Take a look at

http://www.renthal.com/applications.asp

then click on the trials link on the right hand side of the page.

Yep..good site the Renthal one...and I'm surprised how much different they feel, since the meassurements dont seem to be HUGELY different.

BUT I tried the Beta 660? ones on mine, AND the Dougie Lampkin 740? ones .....and to be honest (to me!) it felt MUCH better with the Beta ones.

AND...the Dougie Lampkin ones didnt make me ride like him

I thought they would

I mean thats what you pay for aint it??