Wow, what a difference.

So different that i initialy lost my balance just slow turning. Need to retune my body movements to match the new characteristics.

All the lively snatchyness is gone, it'll pull you forward on tick over without that "teetering on the edge of stalling" feeling. I hope this reduces the my nervous clutch covering affliction.

It remains to be seen if it adversly affects that effortless front wheel lift for getting over logs etc.

Glad i had a dremmel, rattle gun and loctites available during fitting though.

Be aware that it will run on a bit when doing 2nd and3 re gear stuff

Wow, what a difference.

So different that i initialy lost my balance just slow turning. Need to retune my body movements to match the new characteristics.

All the lively snatchyness is gone, it'll pull you forward on tick over without that "teetering on the edge of stalling" feeling. I hope this reduces the my nervous clutch covering affliction.

It remains to be seen if it adversly affects that effortless front wheel lift for getting over logs etc.

Glad i had a dremmel, rattle gun and loctites available during fitting though.

Maybe I missed something here - Did you add flywheel weight because you don't like to use the clutch in a trials section? Or?

I recently switched from an '02 GG 280 Edition to a 2012 GG 250 Econo (with a '12 engine). The stock engine/clutch/flywheel is working great. [Although the carb is set rich while I'm breaking it in, so it's not making full power yet.] Last Sunday, I placed first (which is rare for me lately), in the first event I've entered with it . And it was a slippery/wet/muddy event. Just asking...

Making the modification stems from not wanting to clutch so much, but rely on grip that the bike finds at very low revs (mud!!)

I rode a beta evo and found that i trusted the bike immediately even when rolling on from virtually nothing.

I then rode a 2010 250 pro (mines a 2006 250), it was much softer meaning that my hamfisted throttle control didnt upset the bike as much.

I also lacked confidence in the bike not stalling at other times. Other options were to cover the clutch or turn the tickover up... both have their drawbacks.

Well aware that its a personal thing... for instance i know that i i dont notice the snatchy pickup so much from the 3rd lap onwards. Probably because ive settled in a bit.

So you are modifying the Gas Gas to make it feel more like a Beta.........begs a question.

1st trial report

Pro's

• Definately cured me of clutch covering nervousness, especially when on a technical descent at low revs.
  
• Damped down some of my early section throttle snatchyness.
  
• No snatching smooths fork movements and therefore steering.
  
• Makes the bike feel more stable and predictable whilst "in section"
  
• Didnt break traction when first applying throttle on slippery climbs, allowing you time to react before the dreaded wheelspin starts.
  

Con's

• lifting the front wheel over a log with fork bounce and a blip is less dramatic and needs a bit more work (no bad thing)
  
• losing revs after arriving at the top of a "full revs climb" required more judgement when to start reducing throttle.
  

All in all, this has been beneficial for me, mostly because of my poor throttle control. Worth thinking about if you struggle in a similar way.

Dom

...or practise your throttle control more? as a stepping stone yes but it should be your aim to ditch the weight when you improove.

I disagree with you there nige. If he's confortable with it then he should continue using it.

cofortable not using the clutch? does he want to progress and get better, a weight on a 250 gasser is not usual? He has already found the downside of a weight on this bike so its not the panacea for easy skills is it?

Nigel, i get the point you make... of course it would be better to not require it at all

a few things.

• even though its only a 250, i'm small / light in stature
  
• I only get to ride once / twice a month and this is at events which tend to be "straight in"
  
• Confidence plays a large part in improvement, perhaps it can come off in a while
  

either way, like wearing "lucky underpants" if it works for you...it works

I had a 2007 300txt and now have a 250txt 2011. I ride as 50/50 and come in top ten and had a few wins. The 250 in my opinion is snappy so i fitted a S3 fly wheel weight then fitted a head insert the gold one low compression. Its now ok but does not suffer to lift front end extra that is down to clutch n timing of throttle.

In conclusion i find the 300 softer and more power on top end if required, the 250 seems snappy yet gives as much power but not the low down torque that you need, next bike will be a 300 be it Beta or Gasser

No im not saying youshouldnt have the weight, see original comments, if it works for you then great.

I think my point is that as a general rule a 250 for majority doesnt need a weight.

Conversly I have always had bigger engines like the beta 290 and now the 300 gasser, which has the weight!

Edited September 16, 201213 yr by nigel dabster

Can I ask if you had to remove the flywheel to fit the weight or did you jus bolt it on in place ?

Yes you do have to remove the flywheel to fit a weight.