November 25, 201312 yr Ok folks, the timing marks on the flywheel ... 'f' mark lines up at tickover and as revs rise the timing light shows advance which keeps moving untill the 'II' marks and then goes no further. Is this as it should be, the Clymer manual for 200 hondas is a bit vague, saying advance STARTS at the 'II' marks, which sounds all wrong to me. Cheers.
November 25, 201312 yr I'd say yours is working as designed , But I'll double check in my Factory Honda shop manual when I get a chance , I gave my clymer manual to a friend , as I found it very vague on several key points , better than nothing to go by , but not much ... Glenn
November 25, 201312 yr Honda Service Manual for 1986 TLR 200 Reflex: „T“mark is top dead centre (TDC). Ignition time at idle is „F“mark, 7' before top dead centre (BTDC) at 1,300 ~ 100 rpm Full advance is 33' BTDC at 3,000 ~ 100 rpm Ignition timing is not adjustable. If you don`t see the timing advance up to 3,000 rpm, your CDI-unit failed.
November 26, 201312 yr Author Thanks guys, looks like the CDI unit is ok then. Getting a bad miss at highish revs, do the coils go bad?
November 26, 201312 yr Check the cam timing (chain or tensioners worn? "T"mark on flywheel matches "O"mark on cam sprocket?) and CDI connections (poorly connected to ground/frame?)
December 10, 201312 yr Author Ok, i checked cam timing and all looks good tied another coil and standard cdi...and a cdi with no rev limiter...still got the miss at highish revs. Different spark plugs also no different. So looking at what Rollox said, would a slack cam chain cause this symtem, it doen't sound noisy....only other suggestion I've had is that the valve springs are rooted causing valve bounce.
December 10, 201312 yr Check the earth wire under the tank just in front of the seat, I think its green, clean the connection and make sure its tight. I had exactly that problem, ran fine till you revved it, then it would pop and bang. TLTEL
December 11, 201312 yr Author will give that another go tel, already had the continuity meter on it and seemed like a good connection to all other earth points.
December 12, 201312 yr Author Not tried the earth yet till weekend, but on another note....is the clutch cover removable with the motor in the frame??? Other honda 200's no problem, but the bracket which is welded to the frame for the kickstarter 'stop' looks like it might be in the way on the TLR?
December 12, 201312 yr As above, the stop is not welded on my bike, at least I don't think it is. I am sure I did the clutch on mine with the engine in place. TLTEL
December 17, 201312 yr Author put a earth lead from the rear tank mount earth...directly to the motor (cam sprocket cover).....no improvement.
May 7, 201610 yr Hello, I am running into the same problem. I had to replace my tlr200 cdi with a black china box and I can't seem to get rid of the pops (misfires?) ah higher rpms. Anyone have any luck with this issue?
May 8, 201610 yr The Chinese electronics can be of poor quality. Some can be good but a large percentage don't work properly from new. I would sooner buy a used genuine Honda CDI off ebay for twice the money of a Chinese knockoff. Honda electrics are very high quality.
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