I'm a pretty terrible rider...and I don't get out much, but I had an interesting weekend in that I got to ride an '05 280 Pro and a Montesa 4-stroke.

Both very cool bikes, and about what I expected in most areas.

The GG was more plush than the '04 I last rode, and the power was very smooth.

Less tiring to ride. Great low-end grunt for powering up steep hills with turns. Light front end made me want to hop it around. Finish looked a little cobby...or maybe you could say it had a hand-made "works" look. It had only been out a few times, and the plating on the frame was starting to get boot-worn.

I didn't like the fact that it would not start by first taking up the freeplay in the kicker and pushing. It had to be "slapped" from the very top of the stroke. Having replaced GG kicker gears in the past, this concerned me.

Clutch action a little heavy.

The Mont was super cool, too...but, in general, not any better than anything else. Plush suspension, sharp steering, very stable, easy starting, and a more progressive clutch action than Monts I have previously ridden. I did like the traction. Lost momentum on a hill was easily made up for. Cool sound...hearing every power pulse at low RPM.

Both bikes are excellent and show slight improvement over my trusty '01 Sherco, but nothing made me say, "I NEED one of these!"

I think Charlie just wanted to share some thoughts with us, always good to hear others feedback.

Some we might agree with,some we might not, some does not even need a reply!

Lew's post was deleted. Firstly he used text-talk which is not allowed and secondly it was totally irrelevant and added no value to the topic.

Don't know what bikes you've been riding Charlie but I've seen on/off light switches more progressive than a 4rt clutch.

All I said was that it was more progressive than other Monts I've ridden.

I know at least one quite good rider who likes them grabby like that.

He could barely ride my Sherco because the super smooth clutch threw off his timing.

Had my 4rt for three weeks now. Heard different ideas about the clutch but i was told to percivere and i must admit i'm used to it and don't give it a second thought now and it's really good for dumping the power in and lifting the back wheel

In respect to 4RT clutch agree completely with Windlestone.

Have had mine 6 months and find it fine.

The standard length of the m/cyl push rod does mean that the action is very early and some people are not comfortable with that, however is easily fixed if required.

I have found the clutch very quick in that it releases early in the lever movement, but smooth in its engagement.

nothing made me say, "I NEED one of these!"

Dang Charlie. Thought I had you hooked. When you first got on, it seemed like you were indeed "NEEDING" a new Gasser of your own.

Maybe I'm a hard sell.

The last time I absolutely couldn't live without a new bike was when I got off my TY350 and onto an '01 Sherco.

Maybe I'll NEED a '16 Gasser!