When I had mine converted the dealer said the 1.x versions of the software won't work with the battery-less system and the 2.x map won't work with the battery system. If you had the battery then completed the battery-less and did not upgrade to the 2.x map that is the problem. Mine (battery-less upgrade, 2.0 map) starts every time hot with 1-2 and cold 3-5; always.
thanks yeh def sounds like it ,the nz dealer read this post and has got in touch im pretty happy about that and looking forward to getting it sorted cheers
When I first got my Vertigo I too found starting a little difficult. I have an early 17 model 250 that has been converted to battery-less ignition by a local Vertigo dealer and now find that after priming the kick start to the top of compression stroke it will start from cold with 3 -5 strong kicks and little or no throttle. When hot usually starts 1 -3 kicks with 1/4 - 1/3 throttle which as soon as it catches I normally initially rev it a little to be sure its running.
I found a new plug with a correctly set gap helped a little as does running 200:1 or 25ml per 5 litres as recommended. I'm sure that when I first got the bike I had some fuel mixed with a higher oil content and it didn't start as easily.
Hope this helps in some way, as you say awesome bikes.
o yeh im pretty new to trials riding and love the bike to bits ,yip it def starts easier starting exactly it like you say but knowing how easy this started before the upgrade just would make me happier if it started like it used to ,i change the plug every couple of rides there only $5 so i bought half dozen .im running it 25ml per 5. l i did try 150:1 and kept clogging the plug.thanks every one for your help
Why have they made it so had to change the maps? What was wrong with the button system? I love my mapping switch, the only thing I would of sorted is when its turned off it going back to map 1 not staying on the map you had it set to but what do I know..
i purchased the bike second hand and the guy already had most of the batteryless system installed .all i had to do was put the last bit in ,never really had a problem with the pushing the battery button ,it started so easy
until the button thing left me stranded 7k's in the bush pushing the thing until 4am in the darkness it turned out to be the 9v battery connection ,
It should not be like that. The Batteryless kit needs a completely new version of the Software installed, and the TPS and Gear selector recalibrate.
Just check it has OEM_250 (or 300) V2.00.Biker110_Vertigo#170(Biker110#320).WnjTwr installed
Did you do the installation?
hi the dealer done most of the work all i did was the last bit installing the little cdi box and the capicitor looking thing .i not to sure on how to check the map/firmware on the computer i might have to book it in
Perhaps you could fit a battery to power up the electrical system or buy a ten year old bike and just start it on 1st or 2nd kick and then ride off on it.
haha yip i also have a 2006 scopra as well starts first kick everytime
hi all i have a 2016 300 camo bloody awesome bike ,the bike was very easy to start before i had the battery-less kit installed ,1 or 2 kicks when cold and 1 kick everytime when its warm
now with the battery-less kit it takes 6 to 12 kicks to start when its cold and 2 to 8ish kicks to start when its warm ,
the dealer in new zealand told me that he updated the computer but was a while ago ,is there anything i can do or try to make this better .i cant turn it back to the battery way i had to send part of the old system in exchange cheers for any help thanks mike
yeh doesn't seem to be much of a trials scene here I think Hamilton would be the closest i might head along to an event there to see what its all about .I managed to con a mate to get trials bike as well ,and working on converting a couple other mates into trials that I ride with.i ended up with a scorpa sy250 2006 it has a couple of small issues but all in all pretty good ,you wouldn't happen to no if any body has parts for these in nz.the gasgas I bought was way to hard to start just would of taken the fun out of it for me
hi I just bought a 2006 sy250 I got it has a couple of probs
the coil lead is melted on the head ,it has melted the rubber but not thru to the wires I have taped it up for now can I replace the lead or do I have to replace the coil as well ?
the top end has a rattle it seems worse when its cold idle ,doesn't seem that bad once warm .I will pull it down and inspect the barrel/piston this week
it is a bit hard to start when its cold,cleaned the airbox had a lot of crap in there the filter was filthy , cleaned the carb it had a lot of crap in there mostly in the choke, air screw is only 1/4 turn out ,replaced spark plug ,choke on takes anything up to 20 kicks when cold to start ,,once warm it starts first kick ,once warm leave it for 5 min and will take 3 kicks , I don't no trials bikes at all but the spark is white but the spark seems very small {compared to a dirt bikes spark} I will check all the earths on the bike and sort the melted lead,
the exhaust is chocka block with crud I will attempt to burn it out this arvo not sure if that has anything to do with cold starting
I'm totally new to trials had a life time on dirt bikes,i had my first day trials riding yesterday on this and its the most fun iv had on a bike in along time any help would be appreciated cheers
thanks mate ,iv got to master the how to start the bike part first haha,just a casual thousand or so kicks today and got it started 5 times runs really nice when it does but yeh needed a few beers after all that kicking ,hopefully I can sort this out and get out there
hi guys my names willy I'm from new Zealand ,iv just bought my first trials bike 2005 gasgas txt pro 300. it arrives 2moro and I cant bloody wait to give trials ago
Iv never tried trials ,iv done a lot of general dirt bike riding
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thanks yeh def sounds like it ,the nz dealer read this post and has got in touch im pretty happy about that and looking forward to getting it sorted cheers