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			Thanks for your words about my website  
Let me know if you need additional information
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Hi Mark, 
Here yo have some seat details,
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Hi Mark, 
Congratulations!! Nice work! 
In my website you can find some pictures that could help you. Take a look on the link: http://www.onlytrial.com/1/from_1975_to_80_120291.html 
Anyway, if you like I can send you detailed pictures of the seat (from the 7th Fraser posted on the website)
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Try with RS250TA manuals.  
Once you have reference numbers buy though buying by part instead buying by model. 
To replace complete Cam Chain Honda TLR you will need to replace the chain and I strongly recommend to also replace both chain tensioners. 
The Honda Trials History 
www.onlytrial.com
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			First of all you'll need to know the Honda part reference, for that I strongly recommend you to visit this link of my friend site Honda-Trials from UK: 
http://www.honda-trials.com/_sgg/m8m5_1.htm 
Knowing references you need, you can try to find the part at one of the best Honda original spares European site at following link: 
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda_model8286/ 
The Honda references consist of 5 digits (function part) followed by 3 more digits (model code) and 3 more (classification). 
If the part reference has a black dot at left side means that is a RSC or HRC part (probably difficult to find due to limited productions). Probably you will have no problems, TLR250 was serial production Honda model. 
Hope this info will be usefull for you, 
Kind regards, 
The Honda Trials History 
www.onlytrial.com
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Good work Jenny!!   
I'll be pleased to post on my web if you send me some pictures. 
The Honda Trials History 
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			Not exactly, because te wing came from godess Victory who personified the triumph. 
Victoria of Samothrace was sculpted showing a beautiful woman with great wings open.
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			You will find TLR 250 technical info at: 
http://www.honda-trials.com/forms/tlr250/6.pdf 
Also you can find info about its History at: 
The Honda Trials History
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Let me share you some engine Technical data: 
The TLR250 Honda official data for Europe and US market was: 
The ENGINE 
Air cooled 4-stroke 
Displacement: 249,8 cc 
Bore and stroke: 70 X 64,9mm 
Valve train: Overhead camshaft chain drive 
Maximum Horspower: 15hp at 6.000rpm 
Maximum Torque: 2 Kg/m at 4.000rpm 
Compression ratio: 8.3:1 
Ignition: CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) 
The RTL250 and RTL250S Honda official data for Europe and US market was: 
The ENGINE 
Air cooled 4-stroke 
Displacement: 249 cc 
Bore and stroke: 70 X 64,9mm 
Valve train: Overhead camshaft chain drive 
Maximum Horspower: 14hp at 6.000rpm 
Maximum Torque: 2,05 Kg/m at 4.000rpm 
Compression ratio: 8.3:1 
Ignition: CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) 
TLR250 had more power (1hp more) but less torque, 2Kg instead 2,05Kg 
RTL250 weight was 6Kg lighter, 82Kg while TLR was 88Kg 
Some Magazines at this time announced 16Hp for the RTL250 (No official data) 
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			A lot of Honda fans did ask me about the History of the Honda wings logotype.  
Now you can find that at "The Honda Trials History" webpage. 
The Honda Logotype History
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Number 10 on the drawing. Unfortunately not avaiable now at cmsnl but you can try on ebay.
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			See attached link, you can see both options on the pictures, 
http://www.onlytrial.com/page_37.html 
Anyway you can ask Paul Cowley (shedworks) for all your doubts. This is the best way.
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Thanks Big John,  
You are one of the friend contributors of the Honda Trials History webpage.  
 This movie is a summary of the nicest pictures from the site, and yours was one of these, moreover, in opinion of the Honda Trials History fans (at this momment on the Honda Poll http://www.onlytrial.com/honda_poll_44.html) the RTL270SW Rothmans is the best Honda ever made.
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			...a summary of the most beautiful Honda Trials bikes from "The Honda Trials History" webpage, enjoy!
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Here a picture for your reference, 
Also you can see it at following link. 
http://www.onlytrial.com/from_1974_35.html
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Honda fans info 
New on the net, The Honda Trials History. 
Check out www.onlytrial.com o view the history of Honda trial
		
	
		
			
			
			
				
					
					 	
	
		
			Does anyone has information about this rare trial bike? 
I know that this bike was developed by David Fraser in 79' but I don't know how many units,  
Also I have no pictures.
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