November 11, 201114 yr I suspect the difference is in the engine. It's a heavy(-ish) lump made in the thousands probably for very little. The Pro engine on the other hand is a specialised lightweight unit with a very small gearbox. There are also a few other more "standard" Parts like the Forks which are not the Marzocchi's found on the Pro will also add up.
November 11, 201114 yr Yes we are being ripped off, prices get higher every year. The little gasser looks like a steal, if Scorpa chuck one out at that money i would buy one in the morning.
November 11, 201114 yr why do they need to reduce thier prices? they build them and we keep buying them. supply and demand. if there was a market for "club" bikes, a heavier less spec'd budget bike, would you buy one? i think not. because the bloke your competing against will buy the best that money can buy and beat you on sunday, then guess what, out you go and spend the money that you should have spent in the first place to get on equal machinery terms. Do i think bikes are too expensive? you bet your a*** i do, but that wont stop me spending!
November 11, 201114 yr why do they need to reduce thier prices? they build them and we keep buying them. supply and demand. if there was a market for "club" bikes, a heavier less spec'd budget bike, would you buy one? i think not. because the bloke your competing against will buy the best that money can buy and beat you on sunday, then guess what, out you go and spend the money that you should have spent in the first place to get on equal machinery terms. Do i think bikes are too expensive? you bet your a*** i do, but that wont stop me spending! The Randonne is good value.Id almost consider getting one ,but then i realised i dont qualify as im not quite an old duffer yet
November 11, 201114 yr why do they need to reduce thier prices? they build them and we keep buying them. supply and demand. if there was a market for "club" bikes, a heavier less spec'd budget bike, would you buy one? i think not. because the bloke your competing against will buy the best that money can buy and beat you on sunday, then guess what, out you go and spend the money that you should have spent in the first place to get on equal machinery terms. Do i think bikes are too expensive? you bet your a*** i do, but that wont stop me spending! well it stopped me, bought a new set of golf clubs and hot tub instead, wanted a new gasser,im not helping fund js lifestyle when theres no interest after he took your money.
November 11, 201114 yr Author To reply to your comments, 'The money is in the motor'- one is a high quality piece of equipment, & the other is a gasgas! Paul, the cheaper 'club bike' I use is a 35 year old nail & depending on event, goes as well as a 2010 gasgas. Greg, I have a couple of recent stories about js that confirms what you say! Latest bikes - Don't believe the hype.
November 11, 201114 yr ok we may have views on this but dont make it personal. i'm suprised prices are going up in the current climate, everything has a limit in terms of what people will pay. Pubs on Tyneside are now almost empty,
November 11, 201114 yr Remove the long ride cr4p and it's a good little bike... http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=dW3jAgE-pz4 Doesn't need updating every 5 minutes unlike the raga and will sell itself if priced right as the Scorpa did.
November 11, 201114 yr ok we may have views on this but dont make it personal. i'm suprised prices are going up in the current climate, everything has a limit in terms of what people will pay. Pubs on Tyneside are now almost empty,
November 11, 201114 yr You ain't got a bike Greg. Bikes dont change that much I think Beta engine is now 18 year old all but a few tweaks. I think we do pay to much and importing is a thought to consider regards warranty over cost ie
November 11, 201114 yr Suprising how many new bike blurbs start with the phrase new graphics. All marketing hype year on year to make you think you want a new bike or maybe you need to replace a year old bike that has worn out!!!!
November 12, 201114 yr there are a number of factors on bike prices . the pound lost strenghth against the euro. the randeneur motor and other parts are made in china. lower cost's. metal and raw material cost's went up in a big way. TAX AND VAT and other hidden cost's,the people robbing you are the european govements and our own govement,the importers will earn a bit but you can bet the tax man has the biggest chunk.just think most modern bikes have over
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