city trials Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 Was the observer the only one to see Lampkin disrupt a section marker at section 12's first loop on Sunday? Did anyone get photos? Was this a home field call for Fugi-Gas or was the observer & ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 Possibly but think of it this way the American riders will get the same in Duluth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city trials Posted May 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 Not at Section 12! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattzajac Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 I seem to remember Dougie taking the win from Fuji in Duluth on a bad protest, I have it on video (TrialsTV DVD actually) that he put his foot down. So even if he didn't really disturb the marker consider it even, I think Dougie gets too many breaks everywhere else, simply because he's riding with the number 1 bib. -Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtt Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 I seem to remember Dougie taking the win from Fuji in Duluth on a bad protest, I have it on video (TrialsTV DVD actually) that he put his foot down. So even if he didn't really disturb the marker consider it even, I think Dougie gets too many breaks everywhere else, simply because he's riding with the number 1 bib. -Matt Although I don't get to see events live, or even regularly, from the few I've seen I have to agree with Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 It's true Doug and his team do carry a lot of clout and observers are sometimes a little afraid to make decisions, however this is nothing new. We saw the same with Marc and Jordi. In fact all the top riders are generally given the benefit of any doubt, the observers seem to 'soften up' when the top 15 arrive. The poor early numbers not only have to 'scrub' the sections but observers are never afraid to five them either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave blowers Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 If people cant observe each rider the same they shouldnt be allowed to observe. If a top rider dabbed in a section of mine but reckoned they never and argued with me they would be given the choice of the one or a five, they'd soon back down ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the artist formerly known as ish Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 (edited) I seem to remember Dougie taking the win from Fuji in Duluth on a bad protest, I have it on video (TrialsTV DVD actually) that he put his foot down. So even if he didn't really disturb the marker consider it even, I think Dougie gets too many breaks everywhere else, simply because he's riding with the number 1 bib. -Matt ] Fuji was given two for this ride in section three sunday pictured below, do you think that is a just call? And another quote from another site, section 7 sunday. [Q] The biggest thing I noticed and it was huge, was sunday in section 7 when Fuji did not make it out of the section in time. He was several feet from the gate when time expired. This would have been huge in the outcome. He was given a 1 for his dab in the section.[Q] Edited June 8, 2004 by ishy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa. Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I would say he has dismounted so I would give him a 5 but being the observer you may not see how far off the bike he was if it was quick so he may get away with a 2. Easy to sit here and see he is off his bike but possibly not so easy onsite in real time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the artist formerly known as ish Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 (edited) Swings and roundabouts, reading the team press reports, Doug, said he was unlucky this weekend making a novice mistake costing him the win. Fuji said he was lucky this weekend Edited June 8, 2004 by ishy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Technically he's still astride his bike by the looks of it. His feet are on different sides and the guard is still between his legs. It's a tough call but if this is at far off as he got I'd call in a good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the artist formerly known as ish Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Technically he's still astride his bike by the looks of it. His feet are on different sides and the guard is still between his legs. It's a tough call but if this is at far off as he got I'd call in a good call. That's my whole point, you can't say one rider gets away with it and another doesn't, many would call this a five, some wouldn't. That hill is steep and the bike is stood up on it's back wheel, how does the bike comeback down without the back wheel rolling back and he gets back on it without moving his foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Ishy You're right about what he did to get out of it. I can't see how he could without fiving but from the snap shot in time he is still on a two in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Both feet behind the rear axle and on the ground !!! that's a five isn't it ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 TSR22A A failure is deamed to have occured when:- The rider dismounts from the machine. Dismount will be deemed to have occurred when both of the rider's feet are on the ground at the same side of, or behind the machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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