Hi Deryk, I travel a relatively short distance (2-5 hrs) to the Pre 65, so whether it was one or two days I would still ride. But, in my opinion, the riders from mainland Europe, as well as our southern friends, contribute dramatically to the fantastic atmosphere. My concern would be whether they would continue to support a one day event.

If you are looking for a new challenge, how about organising a 2 day twin shock trial.

Ross

Charlie,love riding the bike makes me smile everytime

I'm out on it.I'm not the greatest trials rider in the

world(left it a bit late to start) enjoy what sections

I clean.Love the noise.Had a modern bike when first

got into trials (Scorpa SY250) couldn't do the bike

justice.The great thing about the Ceefer it has character

and its called "ALF".

cheers the noo Brian

Edited December 27, 201312 yr by broony

Might be a bit drastic to have the whole entry on one day, but there will be some of the more senior (or injured) riders that may prefer only doing one day. Even if it was only 10 or 20 places it would mean that many fewer dissapointed riders. Ok the route is different each day, but for most that might elect to ride only one day, it is the taking part that counts and I am fairly sure most would happily accept been grouped into a "one day" result category.

Hi Guys,

Totally agree Alan.

I even may be able to ride for one day. And I would struggle but love it!!!

But there is No way that I could do two days.

I have the consolation of trying to encourage some of my younger relatives to get good enough to compete in the trial, and would even abide with the unpredictable and unfair bike construction rules at a pinch. One thing has you say it would encourage more into competing in the trial!!!!

And keep the old Classic Stars riding in the event??? Well this is what draws the general public to the event surely????

But it will never happen will it???

Regards Charlie www.bsaotter.com

Note the bent front down tube.

And the Dunlop alloy rims

Has the swinging arm been shortened??

Edited January 11, 201412 yr by sparks2

Earlier in this post I 'liberated' an image of Scott Ellis on 'BOK', which showed what development in 1969 was like - and some wanted to attack it with an angle grinder, etc., etc., well I thought it might add to the fun if I showed you just what the bike looked like when Scott first had it!! It was photographed on 'White Rocks' in the 1966 John Douglas trial by Gordon Francis for offroadarchive

One works bike for at least three years, I wonder how many Raga & Bou get through now?

Hi,

and just for the record here is an image of Scott Ellis on the works C15T in the British Experts trial just at the start of Ashfield, taken before he and his Dad (probably) warmed up the down tube and bent it out of the way of the front wheel on full deflection!

Enjoy

Hi Deryck

Many years ago I asked Scott about that bent front down tube, he said it was a Brian Martin / Scott Ellis mod.

Regards

Sparks

Hi Guy's.

Deryk.

I have only just taken a look at this page.

The first picture of Scott with the bent front down tube was a modified second batch C15T frame that also had the seat tubes pulled in. BOK228C though.

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The second picture is Scott riding BOK228C with the last guise frame in the 1966 "Experts" before it was chrome plated.

The bike that won the experts in 1965 still had steel wheel rims and different front fork stays, and now that I have enhanced the picture I have, although it is in black and white, it looks like the tank was standard Victor with the yellow painted front section. I have double checked in the Don Morley book, and the picture of the bike with tank removed ,confirms it in this guise for the 1965 Experts win.

This is the frame that was later copied by Harry Foster, and named the "Otter" Why?

Because Harry's workshop was by the side of the river Otter near Ottery-St-Mary. in Devon.

Regards Charlie www.bsaotter.com

Edited March 3, 201412 yr by charlie prescott