LaVern Posted April 28 Author Report Share Posted April 28 Let's try this again. Well I must be doing something wrong. It says max size 5.12KB. I don't think I can get it that small. I must be doing something wrong, I've resized it down to 30% of the original size , two times and the smallest one is still 72.8KB. Okay, I give up, I got to sleep on this one for a while. LaVern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVern Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 One more time. This is my bike after the new top end and new front fender. I am still having a hard time getting my pictures to resize to a allowable size. I'm running Windows 11 and it's not like 10. LaVern 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVern Posted May 4 Author Report Share Posted May 4 I think I figured out my problem. I was not a paid subscriber. I am now. Maybe I can post some pictures. The first one is what it looks like today with the new fender and after the new top end. The second one with the high mounted front fender is from 5 or 6 years ago. I can't remember exactly but I did recondition a 1975 Honda TL25o, and last year I did my son's 1978Yamaha TY250. On the Yamaha I was having problems with bleed through on the gas tank son my son took it to one of his friends who does painting on bikes. On the Honda I didn't do it justice by putty knobby tires instead of trials . LaVern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakennstirred Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 (edited) On 9/28/2023 at 2:21 PM, LaVern said: I don't know if they changed the RL250 engine that much when Beamish built them. LaVern Beamish never built the motors. Suzuki did them all. On the later black engine Beamish , Beamish had some work done on the top end to convert the 325 to 250. Edited May 9 by shakennstirred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVern Posted May 9 Author Report Share Posted May 9 7 hours ago, shakennstirred said: Beamish never built the motors. Suzuki did them all. On the later black engine Beamish , Beamish had some work done on the top end to convert the 325 to 250. I stand corrected then. I thought that the Beamish was the one who changed the clutch linkage to make it an easier pull, as well as later converting the 250 to 325 not 325 to 250. I believe they also changed something on the frame, but I could be wrong on that also. Thanks. LaVern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr1AL Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, LaVern said: I stand corrected then. I thought that the Beamish was the one who changed the clutch linkage to make it an easier pull, as well as later converting the 250 to 325 not 325 to 250. I believe they also changed something on the frame, but I could be wrong on that also. Thanks. LaVern www.beamishownersclub.com History will give you the most of the story. Regards Alan. Edited May 9 by Tr1AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakennstirred Posted yesterday at 05:57 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:57 PM (edited) On 5/9/2025 at 2:19 PM, LaVern said: I stand corrected then. I thought that the Beamish was the one who changed the clutch linkage to make it an easier pull, as well as later converting the 250 to 325 not 325 to 250. I believe they also changed something on the frame, but I could be wrong on that also. Thanks. LaVern The 250 motor in your bike , is a modded Ts250 engine. in the Beamish world, there called the silver engine. the 325cc engine is a new engine and only came from Suzuki as a 325. Beamish in the UK got some engines converted down the 250cc(because the 325 can be a bit of a handful) these engines are called the Black engine bikes. Also an interesting note, Suzuki never used the engine themselves, it was a UK Beamish Suzuki exclusive. Edited yesterday at 05:59 PM by shakennstirred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVern Posted yesterday at 07:08 PM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:08 PM ShakennStirred, Thanks for that info. The one thing on my RL250 is the terribly hard clutch pull. I read, saw, or was told somewhere that Beamish took care of that problem by a totally different clutch activation to ease that problem. I think and correct me if I am wrong that is where the cable attaches to a lever on the topside which then activates the push rod. If that is so, did that style originate on a Suzuki engine or was that Beamish design? LaVern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakennstirred Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 21 hours ago, LaVern said: ShakennStirred, Thanks for that info. The one thing on my RL250 is the terribly hard clutch pull. I read, saw, or was told somewhere that Beamish took care of that problem by a totally different clutch activation to ease that problem. I think and correct me if I am wrong that is where the cable attaches to a lever on the topside which then activates the push rod. If that is so, did that style originate on a Suzuki engine or was that Beamish design? LaVern Not on your engine. its was always the worm drive as on the TS250. in the newer black engine bikes the clutch arm was moved to the right-side of the engine . works in the same way as the older TM mx bikes. You can upgrade the TS based engine like your. to a Clutch case of the TM250. rare to find these days. but they do turn up. It then will look like the picture ive added to this post Edited 4 hours ago by shakennstirred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVern Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Wow that's interesting. Do you know how they handle the existing clutch rods going to the stator side of the engine? I also thought I saw a Suzuki, or Beamish or Suzuki/Beamish with a clutch arm coming out of the top of the stator side case. With that it seems easier to do than switching completely to the other side of the engine. Boy, at 73 I'm still learning, and at 73, that's a project that will be left just to think about😄. Thanks for the information. LaVern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakennstirred Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 30 minutes ago, LaVern said: Wow that's interesting. Do you know how they handle the existing clutch rods going to the stator side of the engine? I also thought I saw a Suzuki, or Beamish or Suzuki/Beamish with a clutch arm coming out of the top of the stator side case. With that it seems easier to do than switching completely to the other side of the engine. Boy, at 73 I'm still learning, and at 73, that's a project that will be left just to think about😄. Thanks for the information. LaVern Not a mod i have seen. definitely not a Suzuki or Beamish mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVern Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago I just spent quite a bit of time looking thru the OEM parts, of Partzilla and Babbitt's and find no parts fiche that shows a TM250 with a right side clutch lever as you show. I can see in your picture it's a Suzuki side cover. I wonder if like Yamahas the Suzukis were manufactured with differences depending on where they were shipped to. I'm in the USA, where are you located? Thanks for this conversation. I am finding it quite interesting and educational. LaVern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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