I ride both 250 and 325 late models in twinshock trials and I don't feel short changed when comparing my bikes with the Ty's, fantics, Hondas, etc. Yes they may be more able trials machines but the beamish bikes have their own qualities that should not be ignored. I find they excel in finding grip, they are very stable over rocks and up streams,have a fantastic strong sump guard!,the engines are very reliable and strong, they look good and you can still get them reasonably cheap. What more do you want.