I do not hold the kill button down, but the momentary switch I installed that powered 12V to the diagnostics connector.
For me- both bikes I installed it on started a LOT better, especially when I’m tired and not in a good kicking location. The other things I liked about that modification- if the bike runs out of fuel, a simple button push with prime it. Vrs a ton of kicking (at least in my experience). Plus it works great for diagnostics out on the trail if it is won’t start/quits running. The button push verifies the fuel pump is working (at least).
On my bikes, the little AAA battery would not really charge back up properly and I would take them out every so often to give a proper charge. But after the ‘super easy start’ mod I no longer did that.
on the early Explorers, turning on the keyswitch would power up the fuel pump and you could hear it running. One I worked on would start very well- once I set everything else up properly.
I hold the momentary button (on my modified setup) down as I am kicking. Then release. This has always worked for me.
I believe the ECU is also energized by applying voltage to the proper diagnostics connector. These are the same connectors used when using the diagnostics software- and it cannot read it unless it is powered up.
I find that the bikes are very easy to start- BUT you really need to have the TPS (throttle position sensor) and idle set as the manual says. Plus do not touch the throttle when starting.
I also ran a little ‘hotter’ sparking plug in both my bikes- I was very careful to watch them and the stock ones just ran too cold. That seemed to make the bike harder to start as the sparking plug aged a bit.
I’m 99% certain the engine has to come out to service fuel filter/fuel pump. I’ve done it, although awhile ago also. The packaging is nice that way, but makes it a pain when a simple filter change.
I always filtered the fuel on the bikes- just to make sure fuel was a clean as possible.
I use a fibreglass brush made just for cleaning connectors. I have not heard of any coil/stator problems at all on these, although both can rear their heads at higher temps. Another thing to check- how much current is the fan drawing? Perhaps if way too much it could cause problems.
best way to find out is connect diagnostics software and test everything when up to temp.
Still having lots of fun on the Escape R. With the cold weather, range is less than I was hoping. But I will see when it warms up. It is a LOT better if everyrthing is slow trials or trial type stuff (1-5mph). Any road riding, even under 20mph seems to really lower the battery fast.
the FRB (fixed regenerative braking) does seem to help and make a really good ‘thumb’ rear brake. Very effective.
Another nice 2-Escape ‘R’ ride yesterday. It is pretty fun having two electric bikes, so quiet.
Did about 13 miles (mostly very tight singletrack) lots of elevation changes and 2.5 hours of actual riding time. High 30º f (~ 3.5C)
The batter indicator claimed about 50% charge at the end.
I suspect we could not have done the same ride again on the charge. It appears riding on the road, even under 20mph draws the power pretty quickly. Tomorrow I should have the license plate, so I’ll have to try a little ride on just road (with tyres pumped up) and see how it does. (Still waiting on replacement display, so will have to use GPS for distance/speed)
The pump works well and seemed to fit in this spot with a guard. Not many places to put it- and I’ve never seen one done.
For the upper hose, I used one off a KTM that was connected to ‘splitter’. Fit quite well. I originally was going to mount it inverted, but it seemed to pump way better this way.
Hello mark you never updated if you got gasgas head o-rings and part #. Are the 300cc same as 280. Thinking of removing my cylinder head and cleaning the carbon out. Cheers kim.
Here are the ones was told about and used. Worked great
1995 GG 250 inner and outer O rings.
Outer old P/N M01619135, now P/N MT27816060 dia 101.30 x 1.78mm
Inner P/N M01619215, not sure if it has a new P/N.
I extracted the info from my GPS on the first ride.
total distance, 15 miles
average speed: 5.5 MPH
moving time: 2 hours 42 minutes
4,035 feet elevation gain and loss
Much of it was very slow, tight trails, but also gravel road connections. the end was a quite steep road hill
I started with 100%, ended with claimed 15% (I rather think that really meant not much further).
EM says 10 cycles for full range and the cold could loose easily 20%. also no regeneration for this ride.
I maybe could have gotten 3 hours if I did some more trail riding, add in more for warmer weather and regen- looks pretty decent.
I have not taken it off for the second. (Hope to get up tomorrow too)
I have one of the Xiu electric water pump kits I am planning on installing on my old (now sold) OSSA Explorer. It is getting coolant in the gearbox and blowing on one side and plugging other of the plump showed a leak internally.
Since it is not my bike, I would rather just install this pump. Especially since I had bought it when I owned the bike, and the pumps are readily avaliable. Plus any leak will be obvious and not into the gearbox.
Has anyone installed one of these? If someone has, I would certainly like to see where you mounted and the hoses you used.
I don’t see anyone that still has original pumps anymore. I would rather install something I know will not leak, since it is not mine anymore. He has already had more issues than I did the whole time I owned it. (Failed temp sensor, causing overheating, which I think caused blown head ‘O’ ring).
The bike is outstanding. I like it more than I thought I would. The clutch is a big deal for me, I think it is much more capable and just plain fun due to it.
here is a short video of the first ride, buddy brought his along, so two Escape R bikes!
From what I’ve been hearing the last couple of years of the EM- they are quite reliable and take very little maintenance. Well, the usual wheel bearings, brake pads etc. but engine is almost nothing (so I hear anyway).
I think only the ‘Race’ (and new Escape R) have a real clutch.
I cannot help on state of batteries. I think ‘Inch Perfect Trials’ in the UK is a good place to ask. Although I have not received any response to my question to them.
Hi Lotus, we never liked the original Ossa O rings, they were too large for the groove outside diameters. We have been using GG O rings for many years which provide a good fit, I can give you the P/Ns tomorrow, it's late evening time here. Bye, Peter B.
Thanks!
That would be great info to know- I can pass along for others looking too.
I’m working on a 2014 280 (Explorer)- inner O-ring is bad so I need new ones.
The ones I got are too large. I think they are 82 mm and 104mm (have to measure diameter). Does anyone know the correct size and if any GasGas O rings are correct? Otherwise I guess I’ll have to source some Vitron O rings at Granger or something (States).
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I do not hold the kill button down, but the momentary switch I installed that powered 12V to the diagnostics connector.
For me- both bikes I installed it on started a LOT better, especially when I’m tired and not in a good kicking location. The other things I liked about that modification- if the bike runs out of fuel, a simple button push with prime it. Vrs a ton of kicking (at least in my experience). Plus it works great for diagnostics out on the trail if it is won’t start/quits running. The button push verifies the fuel pump is working (at least).
On my bikes, the little AAA battery would not really charge back up properly and I would take them out every so often to give a proper charge. But after the ‘super easy start’ mod I no longer did that.
on the early Explorers, turning on the keyswitch would power up the fuel pump and you could hear it running. One I worked on would start very well- once I set everything else up properly.