Been riding trials for 20 years, have had an 85 TY350 for that long, my son is 13 and started him out on a 74 TY80 that we restored when he was 7. Recently he asked if he could ride my 350, I said "Only if you can start it yourself" well today I went out and bought another one since I lost my 85 last weekend. Just picked up this 86 today.