motopat

that footage is from an old MX vid - motoXXX the vid is where I got half my user name from (not motoGP or Moto anything else). Outstanding vid, that still holds up against todays offerings - no bull

to be fair, he could be on about anything

interesting to still read more mixed opinions. On another forum www.visordown.com (if you need to know ) I had a couple of individuals say they had broken their wrists or arms because of bark busters. Could have been trail or mx riding though, as the trials scene's not so big as it a road bike forum for the most part. Still undecided - I reckon it could save a few levers or bruised fingers, and I only ride the yellow routes anyway. May give them a shot. Dunno

cheers for the input guys. Think I'll file that idea

ok, sounds like I could suck it and see, or just accept it's a bad idea

I guess you could always shorten the bars by an inch (half inch from either end ) Heard lots of stories (mx / trail / etc) about broken wrists, but don't know of it ever happening. I guess if you know a few people who have used them with no problems the odds must be OK

can't think of a good reason why people don't use them I think they'd be dead handy for bashing through some sections or taking a cheeky 'rest' against a tree Have I just started a trend or have I egg on my face

cheers guys. In the end I just brushed the old mud off with a bit of water, then with a cloth and re-applied some waterproof leather treatment I go cheaply from Millets. I did however do some dusting yesterday and what do ya know - it was the spray with beeswax. I didn't try it on my boots as I'd already done them with the 'propper stuff', but I did spray onto a table and left it a while and did notice quite an impressive residue. I think it probably does work, so when I get lazy or the tub of 'propper stuff' runs out I may switch to that. (I just didn't believe you t-shock 250. Sorry

hi, I just got a second hand pair of boot. They're in great condition and already appear to be 'nic-waxed' (?) quite heavily. This is great, but I'm after some advice - should I just clean up the boot (get the mud off) and apply more waterproofing, or is there a way of getting the existing stuff off and starting from scratch? Advice welcomed, and what is a good waterproofer available easily in the UK? thanks muchly pat

good point

as mentioned it's a pretty similar engine in scorpas and I think there may be some sort of scorpa manual online somewhere. (sorry, don't know where - google may be your freind ). It won't be a pukka manual, but it may be of use? I was verrrrry verrrry lucky and I received a manual from a poster on here who happens to really love TYZs and does the odd SSDT on them , who had a spare he didn't need. I also got something from Sammy Miller (I think), but that was basically a parts stock list or similar. If it's something specific I won't mind looking it up for you - BUT, I'm not on here regularly. If u want to email me I can give you an address I go to more than here? pat

hi mate I can fully endorse the statement quoted above. Except they are made of runny chocolate mixed with oil and water Other than a fork seal and oil and shim which needed doing when I got it, a few oil changes etc 100% reliable = totally happy. Take care on the oil drain plug. This too is made of ****. I had to get a mate to weld a spanner to it after it rounded. Gordon Farley's (where I bought the bike) supplied a much better aftermarket plug foc . The standard one has quite a deep 'shoulder' and not much for a spanner to grip. If you think yours is standard it may be worth replacing IMO (saving any bother in future). I know you shouldn't be overtightening them (but the previous owner obviously didn't know that, or it got baked on.) Also apply a bit of fresh oil to the sealing washer and copper grease to the thread. hth Happy riding pat

jeeez, life ain't never easy ta, I'll try and consider that when I do the bodge

OK, cheers guys - I already tried to space it a bit (obviously not enough!!). I'll try and space out some more then - hope the bolts are long enough. ciao

did a trial last week and leaves clogged the front mudguard really bad (so much it stopped the bike and the back wheel just spun, and I had to drag the fuggin thing up a hill before I realised the prob ) So, I know you can get spacers, but being a tighta$$ - is there any reason why I just can't ride without the guard (keep the brace)? Bike is a TYZ250 if it matters cheers :hat: